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#27 Apr 02 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
274 reviews now.

375. Can't say I agree with rate-bombing the guy.
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#28 Apr 02 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
Looks like he pissed a lot of people off.
#29 Apr 02 2010 at 10:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
274 reviews now.

375. Can't say I agree with rate-bombing the guy.


No, it sort of trivializes the issues. Oh well.

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#30 Apr 02 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
Samira wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
274 reviews now.

375. Can't say I agree with rate-bombing the guy.


No, it sort of trivializes the issues. Oh well.


But people get to feel better about themselves by trying to make the doctor look like he's incompetent to the uninformed public.
#31 Apr 02 2010 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
This is only the beginning. Obamacare is scaring off potential doctors left and right.

#32 Apr 02 2010 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
I actually really appreciate it when people tell me up front not to show them my *****. It saves us some awkwardness and insincere apologies.
#33 Apr 02 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is only the beginning. Obamacare is scaring off potential doctors left and right.

Mostly just right.


I'll be here all weekend. Please, tip your waitresses; she's workin' really hard tonight.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#34 Apr 02 2010 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
Samira wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
274 reviews now.

375. Can't say I agree with rate-bombing the guy.


No, it sort of trivializes the issues. Oh well.


Which is a shame, because it's trivial enough as it is.
#35 Apr 02 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
Nope, my doc has a big ol' Obama poster in his office (his office office, not the waiting room or any of the patient rooms. I saw it when the door was open and I walked past.)

While there are undoubtedly some doctors who agree with this guy, I believe the majority of them take their oath seriously and treat their patients regardless of the way their political leanings bend.

Hey, if nothing else, this might encourage some up and coming young Republican docs to go into geriatric medicine, since folks over 65 are WAY more likely to have voted for McCain. Geriatric medicine has the most critical shortage of trained doctors and specialists (last estimate I heard was under 6,000.)
#36 Apr 02 2010 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey, if nothing else, this might encourage some up and coming young Republican docs to go into geriatric medicine, since folks over 65 are WAY more likely to have voted for McCain. Geriatric medicine has the most critical shortage of trained doctors and specialists (last estimate I heard was under 6,000.)


Plus, they're already covered by socialized medicine, so hey. No conflict.

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#37 Apr 02 2010 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
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catwho wrote:
While there are undoubtedly some doctors who agree with this guy, I believe the majority of them take their oath seriously and treat their patients regardless of the way their political leanings bend.


Wow! Nice false dilemma! So any doctor who agrees with this doctor doesn't take their oath seriously? Really?
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#38 Apr 02 2010 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
catwho wrote:
While there are undoubtedly some doctors who agree with this guy, I believe the majority of them take their oath seriously and treat their patients regardless of the way their political leanings bend.


Wow! Nice false dilemma! So any doctor who agrees with this doctor doesn't take their oath seriously? Really?


Any doctor that would be willing to turn away patients because of their political beliefs would be taking their oath seriously?
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#39 Apr 02 2010 at 7:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
catwho wrote:
While there are undoubtedly some doctors who agree with this guy, I believe the majority of them take their oath seriously and treat their patients regardless of the way their political leanings bend.


Wow! Nice false dilemma! So any doctor who agrees with this doctor doesn't take their oath seriously? Really?


Nice straw man, that's not what she said.
#40 Apr 02 2010 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Any doctor that would be willing to turn away patients because of their political beliefs would be taking their oath seriously?


Except that he stated clearly in the article that he is not turning anyone away, much less asking people what their political affiliation is. He put up a sign. If some people read the sign and then choose not to utilize his services, that is their choice.

He's not violating his oath. He is not turning patients away. He's expressing his opinion about a bill passed by Congress. That's free speech. What part of that did you fail to get?
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#41 Apr 02 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Siesen wrote:
gbaji wrote:
catwho wrote:
While there are undoubtedly some doctors who agree with this guy, I believe the majority of them take their oath seriously and treat their patients regardless of the way their political leanings bend.


Wow! Nice false dilemma! So any doctor who agrees with this doctor doesn't take their oath seriously? Really?


Nice straw man, that's not what she said.


That's exactly what she said. She presented two exclusive options:

1. Doctors who agree with this guy (the doctor in the story)

2. Doctors who take their oath (presumably, the hippocratic oath) seriously.


Ok. Technically, if you interpret the pronoun "them" in the second clause as referring to "doctors who agree with this guy", you could say that she's not creating a false dilemma. But then the sentence makes no sense at all. I can only assume she didn't mean to say that most doctors who agree with this doctor take their hippocratic oath seriously. The pronoun "them" clearly was meant to refer to "doctors" in the first clause and be used to distinguish "doctors who agree with this guy", from "doctors who take their oath seriously".

Unless you have some other interpretation? What do you think that sentence means if not that? More importantly, what did Cat mean when she wrote it?
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#42 Apr 03 2010 at 5:33 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
He's not violating his oath. He is not turning patients away. He's expressing his opinion about a bill passed by Congress. That's free speech. What part of that did you fail to get?


You can express free speech and still violate the oath.

I didn't see anything on the sign saying "lol, just kidding, come on in all you socialist commie *****!"
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#43 Apr 05 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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That's exactly what she said. She presented two exclusive options:

1. Doctors who agree with this guy (the doctor in the story)

2. Doctors who take their oath (presumably, the hippocratic oath) seriously.


Ok. Technically, if you interpret the pronoun "them" in the second clause as referring to "doctors who agree with this guy", you could say that she's not creating a false dilemma. But then the sentence makes no sense at all. I can only assume she didn't mean to say that most doctors who agree with this doctor take their hippocratic oath seriously. The pronoun "them" clearly was meant to refer to "doctors" in the first clause and be used to distinguish "doctors who agree with this guy", from "doctors who take their oath seriously".

Unless you have some other interpretation? What do you think that sentence means if not that? More importantly, what did Cat mean when she wrote it?

Catwho was referring to "doctors who agree with this guy." It should be obvious to anyone who understands basic grammar.




Edited, Apr 5th 2010 12:20pm by kiworrior
#44 Apr 05 2010 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
kiworrior wrote:
Catwho was referring to "doctors who agree with this guy." It should be obvious to anyone who understands basic grammar.

We deals with its own in the appropriate way, thank you very much.
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