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#27 Mar 30 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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They can spend their donation money on French ticklers and lacy panties for all I care.
#28 Mar 30 2010 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
Well I guess the pubbies had to get the word out that they are not all gay men. Odd way to do it though.

It's a nonstory for me. Even the sex club. Let me know if they are actually breaking the law - you know like money laundering or breaking and entering to steal secret records to get dirt on their opposition.
#29 Mar 30 2010 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose we could speculate that at no time has the DNC ever spent money in a wasteful or potentially embarrassing manner, but it's more likely that no one happened to be paying attention when they did...


Have you seen their conventions?
#30 Apr 01 2010 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
Gbaji wrote:
I suppose we could speculate that at no time has the DNC ever spent money in a wasteful or potentially embarrassing manner, but it's more likely that no one happened to be paying attention when they did...


Oh, the DNC spends money too. However...

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“What you will notice is that there are no expenses on here related to sex clubs,” said DNC Spokesman Hari Sevugan. “The DNC, unlike the RNC, does not conduct business while watching women engaged in lesbian bondage scenes…Unlike RNC expenses for redecorating the chairman's office or table service at a bondage club, these expenses were not for personal use but for the actual functioning of the party, and activities that added to the coffers, rather than emptying them.”


You suppose wrong.

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#31 Apr 01 2010 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
Two words...Barney Frank


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US Representative Barney Frank acknowledged yesterday that for a brief time in 1989 he saw a psychiatrist and took antidepressant medication as he battled allegations from a gay prostitute and companion who had operated a sex-for-hire ring in the congressman's home.


This man used taxpayers money to fund his boyfriends gay sex ring.

For some strange reason I didn't see that in the original article.

Or we could look a little bit closer at exactly who is paying for Edwards love child. Wasn't Edwards a presidential candidate for the Democrats?

And lets not even get into how much of the taxpayers money was spent to cover up the acts of slick willy the habitual adulterer.

#32 Apr 01 2010 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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So what you're saying is that the RNC has terrible public relations staff? You'd think with $118 million they could hire someone good.
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#33 Apr 01 2010 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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Barny Frank. This man used taxpayers money to fund his boyfriends gay sex ring. For some strange reason I didn't see that in the original article. Or we could look a little bit closer at exactly who is paying for Edwards love child. Wasn't Edwards a presidential candidate for the Democrats? And lets not even get into how much of the taxpayers money was spent to cover up the acts of slick willy the habitual adulterer.


Um...Neither the RNC or DNC are financed by taxpayers. Frank? Well, if you count the money he was paid to be a rep., perhaps. Edwards? Maybe if he accepted public funds. I honestly can't be bothered to look it up, but u can try. And Clinto didn't use taxpayers money to cover **** up, Kenny Starr certainly did investigating whitewater, but didn't find anything but a BJ.


However, this subject is a strictly RNC vs DNC debate. And the DNC simply does not use kinky lesbian strippers to raise funds. The DNC goes to sporting events (which is a lot less gay than kinky lesbian strippers) & like their RNC compatriots, are into swanky hotels. But, if you can cite proof that the DNC is kinkier, then by all means do so.

My source is FOX news btw, so it's gotta be true.
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#34 Apr 01 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Two words...Barney Frank


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US Representative Barney Frank acknowledged yesterday that for a brief time in 1989 he saw a psychiatrist and took antidepressant medication as he battled allegations from a gay prostitute and companion who had operated a sex-for-hire ring in the congressman's home.


This man used taxpayers money to fund his boyfriends gay sex ring.

For some strange reason I didn't see that in the original article.


Interesting to note that I didn't see anything about using taxpayer money for that. And reading into this 1989 TIME article, it seems the charge leveled by Gobie was not the Congressman running a gay sex ring, but that he abused his immunity to not pay Gobie's parking tickets.

And are you criticizing someone for using prescribed medication and seeing a mental health professional? Get out of the dark ages, man.

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Or we could look a little bit closer at exactly who is paying for Edwards love child. Wasn't Edwards a presidential candidate for the Democrats?


Please tell us, who is? I'm assuming the child's mother, probably with money from Edwards, and if she's not making enough she might be on (gasp!) welfare. You seem to know, so show a cite?
#35 Apr 01 2010 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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However, this subject is a strictly RNC vs DNC debate. And the DNC simply does not use kinky lesbian strippers to raise funds. The DNC goes to sporting events (which is a lot less gay than kinky lesbian strippers) & like their RNC compatriots, are into swanky hotels. But, if you can cite proof that the DNC is kinkier, then by all means do so.

My source is FOX news btw, so it's gotta be true.


To be fair, I doubt the strippers were lesbians. They simply simulated lesbian sex while stripping.

/Pedantic
#36 Apr 01 2010 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Heh. PoliticalWire ran the same theme yesterday (though I didn't bother to mention it here):
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The RNC "has been on the defensive this week because of some questionable expenditures," First Read notes, and is "pushing back today by sending around a list of what the Democratic National Committee has spent money on, including more than $2 million on luxury hotels and caterers, $75,000 for car services, and $262,000 for 'other events' at the Kennedy Center, Fenway Park, and a D.C. nightclub."

The only problem is that there is nothing shocking in the list of Democratic expenditures that comes close to matching what Republicans spent on "bondage-themed nightclubs" and private jets.

Even worse, they've kept the story going for another day.

As a DNC statement points out, "if Republicans want to compare our spending to their spending and allow us to say 'Michael Steele approved spending money at a Hollywood sex club' a few more times -- that's fine with us."
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#37 Apr 01 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

When liberals are pointing and screaming about GOP spending you know they know they're in trouble.

They just spent the country into oblivion and you really think it's important that the rnc spent a few grand on a bondage themed fundraiser?

Are you serious? And just how far is DNC's d*ck up your as*?





#38 Apr 01 2010 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
Locked,

You're a tool if you believe Frank didn't know what was going on and was behind it.

#39 Apr 01 2010 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
They just spent the country into oblivion and you really think it's important that the rnc spent a few grand on a bondage themed fundraiser?
To their Conservative base? Yes. Hypocritical in every way.

Family values? Yep, they belong in a strip club. Anti-gay? Yep, paying money to watch two women hump supports that well. Fiscally responsible? Yep, wasted money on strip clubs and private jets backs that one too.


Oh wait, sorry, that's the opposite of what they're supposed to be doing.
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#40 Apr 01 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
Ugly,

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To their Conservative base? Yes. Hypocritical in every way.


Conservatives won't care this time around. All they'll care about is getting the dnc out of there so that can't f*ck anything else up.

Tell me is Obama opening drilling up going to cost him any votes? That's about how many conservatives aren't going to vote because of this non-story.


And playing conservatives against one another won't fly either.



1 TRILLION....that's the number the Democrats have to battle.

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#41 Apr 01 2010 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Conservatives won't care this time around.
Doesn't excuse it. What they're doing is setting themselves up with easier cannon fodder for the Dems to remind indpendents that the RNC is hypocritical, which kills them when trying to blame Dems for things. This is important in swaying independents who are the balance between the left vs right in America. You want the Republicans in power in 2012? Independents are the ones you need to convince and this helped the Dems on that side.
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#42 Apr 01 2010 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Ugly,

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To their Conservative base? Yes. Hypocritical in every way.


Conservatives won't care this time around. All they'll care about is getting the dnc out of there so that can't f*ck anything else up.


Sooo...it's okay to be hypocritical so long as no one who matters is paying attention?

Wow. Between that and Gbaji's knee-jerk "But but but...the other guys probably do it too, so it's okay!" defense, you guys are really doing a bang-up job standing up for your party.
#43 Apr 01 2010 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Conservatives won't care this time around.


The tea partiers will, so they'll instead vote for tea party candidates, who will lose hilariously to any established democrat. Look at John McCain for example, you think the independents that voted for him are instead going to elect a birther?

Seriously?
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#44 Apr 01 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
When liberals are pointing and screaming about GOP spending you know they know they're in trouble.

Who's pointing and screaming? Giggling, maybe.

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They just spent the country into oblivion and you really think it's important that the rnc spent a few grand on a bondage themed fundraiser?

To me? Not really. To people who donate to the RNC? Sure.

In the past 48 hours, PoliticalWire wrote:
(#1) Since Michael Steele became RNC chairman in January 2009, "a growing number of prominent GOP donors has stopped contributing to the RNC, choosing instead to direct their money to outlets such as the party's Senatorial Committee," the Daily Caller reports.

"According to filings with the Federal Election Commission, at least eight of the RNC's top individual donors have declined to contribute in the past 14 months... Each of the individuals had a record of contributing thousands to the RNC in past years but since 2009 have chosen to direct their money to the NRSC, National Republican Congressional Committee or individual campaign committees."
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(#2) In the wake of the expense scandal at the Republican National Committee, the Family Research Council urged supporters to stop donating to the RNC "and instead contribute to its own coffers or to candidates with like-minded goals," CNN reports.

Said FRC president Tony Perkins: "I've hinted at this before, but now I am saying it -- don't give money to the RNC. If you want to put money into the political process, and I encourage you to do so, give directly to candidates who you know reflect your values."

Earlier, we noted big Republican donors are already bypassing the RNC.
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(#3) As troubles at the RNC mount, the Wall Street Journal reports "a group of former Republican officials are starting an outside political group that could compete with the RNC for wealthy donors and prominence."

"The group, American Crossroads, hopes to raise $52 million from wealthy Republicans and corporations, according to officials involved with the organization. The goal is to mount an independent campaign to help Republican candidates win in the November elections."

The new group "will be run by former RNC Chairman Mike Duncan and Joanne Davidson, a onetime RNC co-chair. Former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie and former White House adviser Karl Rove are informally advising the organization."
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(#4) Sarah Palin has asked the RNC "to remove her name from an invitation that suggests she might attend a series of committee fundraising events timed to coincide with next week's Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans," CNN reports.

Though Palin will speak at the early cattle call for potential 2012 presidential candidates, she will not be participating in any RNC fundraising event.


That's not me or anyone here or the DNC worrying about how the RNC spends their money. That's RNC donors being upset about how the RNC spends their money and they probably aren't interested in "But.. but... DNC hotels! Um... Barney Frank?" as an excuse. Of course, a deal of money will still flow to candidates via third party organizations or direct contributions but shutting the RNC out of the process eliminates a great deal of flexibility in how they spend on the races and which races get immediate funding.

Edited, Apr 1st 2010 9:53am by Jophiel
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#45 Apr 01 2010 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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In the past 48 hours, PoliticalWire wrote:
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That's not me or anyone here or the DNC worrying about how the RNC spends their money. That's RNC donors being upset about how the RNC spends their money and they probably aren't interested in "But.. but... DNC hotels! Um... Barney Frank?" as an excuse. Of course, a deal of money will still flow to candidates via third party organizations or direct contributions but shutting the RNC out of the process eliminates a great deal of flexibility in how they spend on the races and which races get immediate funding.

It should be emphasized that even before this happened there was a concerted effort to get people to stop donating to the RNC, given the candidates they have seen fit to support (see recent elections on the East Coast). I think the point is to decrease the flexibility of the RNC to determine on whom and in which races the money is spent. This incident certainly didn't help their case, but they were hurting prior to it.
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Truefax. Story #1 actually states that there's been a big donor drought since 2009. The point being that (I address this to Varus, not you Moe) what I think of the RNC is meaningless. Hell, I encourage the RNC to spend their entire coffers on goat **** and taffy apples if that's what makes them happy. It's what the people who give to the RNC think about the RNC that matters. And stories like this doesn't help their opinion.
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#47 Apr 01 2010 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

You guys are really in panic mode aren't you?


What you're willfully ignoring is the gop isn't going to have to sell itself this election cycle. All they have to do to win is run against obamacare. Dems sure are starting early with the attacks. I guess they think a sustained 6 month attack will offset their projected losses in Nov.

#48 Apr 01 2010 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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All they have to do to win is run against obamacare.


I honestly hope they do run against healthcare & so does Obama.

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#49 Apr 01 2010 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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All they have to do to win is run against obamacare.


I honestly hope they do run against healthcare & so does Obama.


That's neither what he said or what the GOP intends to do.
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
You guys are really in panic mode aren't you?

I'm sure someone is. I'm personally feeling pretty zen.
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Politico wrote:
A new entrant in the when-it-rains-it-pours category.

The Republican National Committee sent a fundraising mail piece earlier this month with a return number that leads to a phone-sex line offering "live, one-on-one talk with a nasty girl who will do anything you want for just $2.99 per minute."

At the bottom of a piece designed to resemble a census form, a toll-free number is listed next to the national party's address.

Smiley: laugh

No, this "proves" nothing about nothing. It's just funny.
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