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#202 Mar 23 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Did the american people have 5 days to review the final proposal before Obama signed it?

Obama signed the bill the Senate passed on December 24th, 2009. By my count, the American people have had 88 days to review the bill Obama signed today.
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#203 Mar 23 2010 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Jophed,

Well except for the fact that he's not right sure.

He said;

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Well, in point of fact both funds are pretty efficiently run


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the damn gubbmint keeps pillaging the funds


So no the programs are not being run efficiently. In fact they are costing much more than was ever predicted. The same is going to happen with obamacare. Whatever number they give you for the cost of it take that number and multiply it by 10.


Samira is a he? Don't you EVER call anyone else here stupid, you idiot.
#204 Mar 23 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Varus has to justify his Man Seeking Man crush on Samira.
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#205 Mar 23 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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Obama signed the bill the Senate passed on December 24th, 2009. By my count, the American people have had 88 days to review the bill Obama signed today.


Except for all the changes since Dec 09. Unless of course you're claiming this is the exact same bill that the senate passed a couple of months ago.

#206 Mar 23 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

Uber ***** tend to come off as men over the net. Talk to "her" about that.

#207 Mar 23 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Unless of course you're claiming this is the exact same bill that the senate passed a couple of months ago.

Wow, you know nothing about Congress, huh?
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#208 Mar 23 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Jophed,

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Obama signed the bill the Senate passed on December 24th, 2009. By my count, the American people have had 88 days to review the bill Obama signed today.


Except for all the changes since Dec 09. Unless of course you're claiming this is the exact same bill that the senate passed a couple of months ago.



Uh, it is. That's how something becomes a law; the exact same bill must be passed in the House as in the Senate. Add even a single amendment to the bill itself, and it needs to go back for voting.

The House agreed to pass the Senate's version, as long as they could make a separate reconciliation bill. That is going to the Senate to be kicked back and forth. Then it'll go back to the house, and if it's agreed to, then it too will be signed (if Obama agrees, of course). But yes, the Senate's bill from December was passed.
#209 Mar 23 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Jophed,

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Obama signed the bill the Senate passed on December 24th, 2009. By my count, the American people have had 88 days to review the bill Obama signed today.


Except for all the changes since Dec 09. Unless of course you're claiming this is the exact same bill that the senate passed a couple of months ago.


I'm not going to educate you on this matter. Locke gave a brief mention of why you're wrong. Instead, I'm just going to point at you and laugh at how ridiculously stupid you sound when you speak out of ignorance like that.
#210 Mar 23 2010 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh noes! Some redneck thinks my prose is unfeminine! Clutch the pearls, whatever shall I do?


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#211 Mar 23 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh noes! Some redneck thinks my prose is unfeminine! Clutch the pearls, whatever shall I do?

cam show.
#212 Mar 23 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I'm not clutching the pearls that way for ya, sorry buddy.

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#213 Mar 23 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Oh noes! Some redneck thinks my prose is unfeminine! Clutch the pearls, whatever shall I do?


He's just jealous because you have bigger balls than he ever will.
#214 Mar 23 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Uh, it is. That's how something becomes a law; the exact same bill must be passed in the House as in the Senate. Add even a single amendment to the bill itself, and it needs to go back for voting.

The House agreed to pass the Senate's version, as long as they could make a separate reconciliation bill. That is going to the Senate to be kicked back and forth. Then it'll go back to the house, and if it's agreed to, then it too will be signed (if Obama agrees, of course). But yes, the Senate's bill from December was passed.


Yes. But that just highlights the ridiculousness of the process itself. By signing the bill into law, Obama has essentially forced the issue into "this bill, or this bill with the amendments". The Senate bill was never intended to be law. It was, at best, a stage of negotiation with the House. Signing it into law represents the ultimate in "pass anything we can label as health care, no matter how horrible it is".
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#215 Mar 23 2010 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes. But that just highlights the ridiculousness of the process itself.

I'll say. Too bad we couldn't do it the "normal" way with 50+1 votes in both chambers, huh?
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#216 Mar 23 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Uber ***** tend to come off as men over the net.


I totally read that as "Uber ***** make me 'come off' over the net." lol


Oh and Sam, I will have to agree with Bel on this one and let this clip describe why. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUbECQlqOI4
#217 Mar 23 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Heh.
USA Today wrote:
WASHINGTON — Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it.

By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms, as "enthusiastic" or "pleased," while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as "disappointed" or "angry."

The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill "a good first step" that should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes needed in the nation's health care system.
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#218 Mar 23 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
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I just want to know how many of you honestly, truly believe they will be able to fund this bill without raising taxes significantly on something.


They'll start by gutting the military.


Swapping your offensive foreign policy for domestic health care?

Sounds like win/win to me.
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#219 Mar 23 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just because it amused me, via Politico is a photograph of Obama's speech he gave before the joint session of Congress showing his last second edits. I guess there's a reason he doesn't put crib notes on his palm. Smiley: laugh
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#220 Mar 23 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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In fact, health care was the policy area that drew the second highest negative rating, with 58 percent registering disapproval. The highest negative rating was 62 percent for his handling of the federal deficit.


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According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Monday, 51 percent of respondents disapprove of Obama's job performance and 46 percent approve of it.




Locked,

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The House agreed to pass the Senate's version, as long as they could make a separate reconciliation bill.


So they passed a bill that's not actually going to be the complete bill and you think this is Obama, and congress, being upfront with the american people?



Tulip,

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He's just jealous because you have bigger balls than he ever will.


There you go talking about my balls again. ****.

#221 Mar 23 2010 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Swapping your offensive foreign policy for domestic health care?


It's only offensive if you hate the US. Of course if you think the US military protects people homicidal madmen like Hussein, not our president, then you value the military.

#222 Mar 23 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
CNN

Poll released Monday, i.e. yesterday's news - literally - based on pre-vote polls (19th-21st with the vote being held late Sunday night on the 21st). If there's one thing polls tell us, it's that Americans like a winner and now that the bill is the law, you'll see more people putting themselves on the winning side by showing support.
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#223 Mar 23 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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you'll see more people putting themselves on the winning side by showing support.


lmao...good one.

The people showed their dissatisfaction with this so much so that the Dems that voted for it are terrified of returning to their districts.

They actually had to draw lots to see which Dem congressmen wouldn't have to vote yes on this thing.

This is how the Dems lost congress in the mid 90's and they know it's about to happen again and are running for cover like the scared p*ssies they are.

#224 Mar 23 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
like the scared p*ssies they are.

Like Republicans? Aren't you the one always saying how the poor Republicans were too intimidated by the Democrats to do this or that?

Too intimidated to stop AWESOME HEALTH CARE BILL from passing, for example Smiley: laugh
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#225 Mar 23 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Just because it amused me, via Politico is a photograph of Obama's speech he gave before the joint session of Congress showing his last second edits. I guess there's a reason he doesn't put crib notes on his palm. Smiley: laugh


Whoever marked up that document has awesome handwriting.
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#226 Mar 23 2010 at 2:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Politico gives the impression that those are Obama's handwritten notes.
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