In fact, the NEJM's analysis of physician opinion was quite different.
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By the way, this is what "The Medicus Firm" does:
They make money by matching physicians with vacancies in hospitals and clinics. Why, who could ever guess that they might start saying "Hey guys, there's gonna be a whole bunch of openings coming up... think ya might need a firm specializing in filling those slots?"
Edited, Mar 19th 2010 3:10pm by Jophiel
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In today's competitive physician recruiting marketplace, physician vacancies have increased exponentially. To fill these wide-spread vacancies, most hospitals and groups will be forced to look to a search firm for outside assistance… specifically one that can provide definitive results without creating tremendous financial exposure.
Since 2001, The Medicus Firm (and its pre-merger predecessors The MD Firm and Medicus Partners), using what has now become known as The Medicus Firm White Board, have sought to provide solutions to the challenges that hospitals and groups face in choosing a search firm with whom they can truly partner.
Since 2001, The Medicus Firm (and its pre-merger predecessors The MD Firm and Medicus Partners), using what has now become known as The Medicus Firm White Board, have sought to provide solutions to the challenges that hospitals and groups face in choosing a search firm with whom they can truly partner.
They make money by matching physicians with vacancies in hospitals and clinics. Why, who could ever guess that they might start saying "Hey guys, there's gonna be a whole bunch of openings coming up... think ya might need a firm specializing in filling those slots?"
Edited, Mar 19th 2010 3:10pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophed,
God you're stupid.
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They make money by matching physicians with vacancies in hospitals and clinics. Why, who could ever guess that they might start saying "Hey guys, there's gonna be a whole bunch of openings coming up... think ya might need a firm specializing in filling those slots?"
God you're stupid.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Jophed,
God you're stupid.
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They make money by matching physicians with vacancies in hospitals and clinics. Why, who could ever guess that they might start saying "Hey guys, there's gonna be a whole bunch of openings coming up... think ya might need a firm specializing in filling those slots?"
God you're stupid.
Sick burn.
Oh, totally. What a searing refutation.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
God you're stupid.
Luckily, not so stupid as to go "Slurp, slurp, slurp!!" when I hear the NEJM has released a scathing health care survey!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Oh yeah...
Edit: Add Brad Ellsworth to the "Yes" column. Another member of the Stupak block who decided to support the current bill.
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Edit #3:
Edited, Mar 19th 2010 5:18pm by Jophiel
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Representative Allen Boyd, Democrat of Florida, who voted against the House’s health care legislation in November, is jumping onto the yes wagon, according to an interview in The Tallahassee Democrat.
Edit: Add Brad Ellsworth to the "Yes" column. Another member of the Stupak block who decided to support the current bill.
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WASHINGTON — After days of fence-sitting, U.S. Rep. Suzanne Kosmas of New Smyrna Beach said Friday that she would support a sweeping Democratic plan for health-care reform that has divided the country even as it aims to bring health insurance to 95 percent of all Americans.
Kosmas, one of 39 Democrats to oppose a similar bill in November, said in an exclusive interview with the Orlando Sentinel that she decided to change her mind because the latest version addressed some of her previous concerns about its effect on small businesses and the federal deficit.
Kosmas, one of 39 Democrats to oppose a similar bill in November, said in an exclusive interview with the Orlando Sentinel that she decided to change her mind because the latest version addressed some of her previous concerns about its effect on small businesses and the federal deficit.
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Rep. Scott Murphy, D-N.Y., on Friday declared he would vote for the administration’s $940 billion overhaul of the nation’s health care system, saying it would shift the balance of power from insurance companies to patients and does a better job of reining in medical costs.
Murphy said the final health care package is “much more fiscally conservative†than the broader House-passed bill he opposed last November and would do a better job of reducing the explosive growth in medical costs that “our families and small businesses are facing,†while still expanding insurance coverage to roughly 32 million people.
Murphy said the final health care package is “much more fiscally conservative†than the broader House-passed bill he opposed last November and would do a better job of reducing the explosive growth in medical costs that “our families and small businesses are facing,†while still expanding insurance coverage to roughly 32 million people.
Edited, Mar 19th 2010 5:18pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Assassin Nadenu wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
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If government runs healthcare, they'll kill your grandma.
That's what happens when the govn gets to determine who gets surgery and who doesn't.
Which is what's happening with insurance now anyway.
But most grandmothers are already covered by medicare. The public option is literally to opt-in to medicare or a similar system.
Jophiel wrote:
Oh yeah...Edit #3:
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Rep. Scott Murphy, D-N.Y., on Friday declared he would vote for the administration’s $940 billion overhaul of the nation’s health care system, saying it would shift the balance of power from insurance companies to patients and does a better job of reining in medical costs.
Murphy said the final health care package is “much more fiscally conservative†than the broader House-passed bill he opposed last November and would do a better job of reducing the explosive growth in medical costs that “our families and small businesses are facing,†while still expanding insurance coverage to roughly 32 million people.
Murphy said the final health care package is “much more fiscally conservative†than the broader House-passed bill he opposed last November and would do a better job of reducing the explosive growth in medical costs that “our families and small businesses are facing,†while still expanding insurance coverage to roughly 32 million people.
See how well things would have gone if the Repubs would have just worked with the bill in the first place instead of ****-blocking from the beginning?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
See how well things would have gone if the Repubs would have just worked with the bill in the first place instead of ****-blocking from the beginning?
I'm not sure what you think would have happened. Are you saying we would have had a bill that was more fiscally conservative if the party with that as a platform had just gone along with the massively expensive plan in the first place?
You get that the only reason there's a hint of fiscal sanity in this is because the GOP has opposed it from day one, right? The only reason the small number of fiscally responsible Dems in congress have any influence on the final form of this bill is precisely because they are needed to pass the bill.
Do you have the faintest clue how Washington politics works? Or do you just mindlessly repeat what some talking head told you?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Do you have the faintest clue how Washington politics works? Or do you just mindlessly repeat what some talking head told you?
Sweet, delicious irony.
Hey, Gbaji, I once heard that the more senators you have in a majority, the more cloture votes there are!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Hey, Gbaji, I once heard that the more senators you have in a majority, the more cloture votes there are!
Given that there is a direct correlation between the two, yes.
We can debate causation, but you've already shown the correlation, didn't you? Or are you sticking to the somewhat lame assumption that it has anything to do with the party in the majority?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Given that there is a direct correlation between the two, yes.
Except that there's not. Are you that bad with math?
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We can debate causation, but you've already shown the correlation, didn't you?
Erm, no. I showed that the number of cloture votes have jack all to do with changes in the size of the majority. Again, are you really this bad at math or are you just delusional or what? You think a drop in cloture votes when the size of a majority goes from 53 to 55 shows a direct correlation? You think a drop in cloture votes when the majority goes from a tie to +1 shows a direct correlation? You think a doubling in cloture votes when the majority goes from +5 to +1 shows a direct correlation? Do you even know what any of those words mean?
Ah, you. So funny to listen to you talk about how Congress works. Hey, remember the time you told us all that a congressional committee can overturn existing laws?
Just because it's fun to graphically demonstrate how little Gbaji knows versus how much he claims to know (that'd be an amusing graph itself), I spent the two minutes on some graph-makin' site to plug in the senate majority size versus the number of cloture motions for each congress starting from the 100th.
Cloture motions are divided by ten so the first point at 4.3 represents 43 motions, etc. Majority size is the number of senators over 50 the majority party for that congress had*. I didn't track which party had the majority since that doesn't matter towards showing there is absolutely no "direct correlation" between majority size and cloture motions as Gbaji claims.
Hey, what do you know? Gbaji doesn't know shit about the Congress! Amazing how much fun you can have with two minutes on Chartpart.com
*That looks to be off by a few pixels but when using free graphing sites, I guess you get what you pay for.
Edited, Mar 19th 2010 11:00pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Are you saying we would have had a bill that was more fiscally conservative if the party with that as a platform had just gone along with the massively expensive plan in the first place?
You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
Love,
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gbaji wrote:
Debalic wrote:
See how well things would have gone if the Repubs would have just worked with the bill in the first place instead of ****-blocking from the beginning?
I'm not sure what you think would have happened. Are you saying we would have had a bill that was more fiscally conservative if the party with that as a platform had just gone along with the massively expensive plan in the first place?
You get that the only reason there's a hint of fiscal sanity in this is because the GOP has opposed it from day one, right? The only reason the small number of fiscally responsible Dems in congress have any influence on the final form of this bill is precisely because they are needed to pass the bill.
Do you have the faintest clue how Washington politics works? Or do you just mindlessly repeat what some talking head told you?
Notice how I said "worked with" instead of "flat out opposing".
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
So business means health insurance companies raising premiums and them sitting on millions if not in the billions with their right to refuse any kind of treatment to anyone although they have all that money at their discretion? You can't really sit there and be alright with all these new moms, hard working families and your grandma getting denied treatment even though they have paid 20 years into their health insurance at their jobs.
Health insurance has been flawed for decades and finally someone steps up to the plate to nosedive them ******* and people are complaining? So much propaganda popping up everywhere from people and sources that don't know what the **** they are even talking about. The American people win when this bill passes. It's not about Democrats. It's not about Republicans. This **** is about me and you, our kids, our family. I could care less about someone saying they are Democrat or a Republican. Each person is an individual contribution to our government. No matter how big or small the contributions might be.
Excenmille wrote:
So business means health insurance companies raising premiums and them sitting on millions if not in the billions with their right to refuse any kind of treatment to anyone although they have all that money at their discretion? You can't really sit there and be alright with all these new moms, hard working families and your grandma getting denied treatment even though they have paid 20 years into their health insurance at their jobs.
Health insurance has been flawed for decades and finally someone steps up to the plate to nosedive them ******* and people are complaining? So much propaganda popping up everywhere from people and sources that don't know what the @#%^ they are even talking about. The American people win when this bill passes. It's not about Democrats. It's not about Republicans. This sh*t is about me and you, our kids, our family. I could care less about someone saying they are Democrat or a Republican. Each person is an individual contribution to our government. No matter how big or small the contributions might be.
The conservatives' stance is that if you can't afford commercialized healthcare, regardless of whatever the premiums are being hiked up to, either start making more money or die. The consumers are the ones who have the problem; the system itself works!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Excenmille,
You're a f*cking idiot. Of course liberal demcrats tend attract that personality type.
People are going to be denied treatment under obamacare. I know you probably tuned out all the talk about death panels so most likely you have no idea that the "death panels" will determine which person gets which care.
So in your opinion the health care costs associated with smokers shouldn't make a difference in what premium the insurer is going to charge?
It's not about contributions to help the community hoping that'll make everyone happy you nitwit.
You're a f*cking idiot. Of course liberal demcrats tend attract that personality type.
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You can't really sit there and be alright with all these new moms, hard working families and your grandma getting denied treatment even though they have paid 20 years into their health insurance at their jobs
People are going to be denied treatment under obamacare. I know you probably tuned out all the talk about death panels so most likely you have no idea that the "death panels" will determine which person gets which care.
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Each person is an individual contribution to our government. No matter how big or small the contributions might be.
So in your opinion the health care costs associated with smokers shouldn't make a difference in what premium the insurer is going to charge?
It's not about contributions to help the community hoping that'll make everyone happy you nitwit.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Excenmille,
You're a f*cking idiot. Of course liberal demcrats tend attract that personality type.
You're a f*cking idiot. Of course liberal demcrats tend attract that personality type.
Ooooo, VARUS BURN!
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You can't really sit there and be alright with all these new moms, hard working families and your grandma getting denied treatment even though they have paid 20 years into their health insurance at their jobs
People are going to be denied treatment under obamacare. I know you probably tuned out all the talk about death panels so most likely you have no idea that the "death panels" will determine which person gets which care.
Varus, your ilk is likely the only ones who tuned into the idea of "death panels" in the first place. Do you even know what the actual concept your catchphrase tries to vilify does?
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Each person is an individual contribution to our government. No matter how big or small the contributions might be.
So in your opinion the health care costs associated with smokers shouldn't make a difference in what premium the insurer is going to charge?
Hmmmm, strangely enough they will still pay more. The difference being, people can no longer be denied coverage. They still need to pay for it though.
Debo,
While you're at it why don't you take a gun and go over to your neighbors house and force him to take some of his food and give to the homeless people living under the bridges downtown.
I know you're a p*ssywhipped little b*tch of a person but even you have know that forcing someone to pay for your health insurance is wrong.
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The conservatives' stance is that if you can't afford commercialized healthcare
While you're at it why don't you take a gun and go over to your neighbors house and force him to take some of his food and give to the homeless people living under the bridges downtown.
I know you're a p*ssywhipped little b*tch of a person but even you have know that forcing someone to pay for your health insurance is wrong.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Debo,
While you're at it why don't you take a gun and go over to your neighbors house and force him to take some of his food and give to the homeless people living under the bridges downtown.
I know you're a p*ssywhipped little b*tch of a person but even you have know that forcing someone to pay for your health insurance is wrong.
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The conservatives' stance is that if you can't afford commercialized healthcare
While you're at it why don't you take a gun and go over to your neighbors house and force him to take some of his food and give to the homeless people living under the bridges downtown.
I know you're a p*ssywhipped little b*tch of a person but even you have know that forcing someone to pay for your health insurance is wrong.
Just to point out, none of your diatribe actually refutes the truth of Debalic's statement. As is, either you pay more or you die. And if you have preexisting conditions you might not even get the opportunity to pay for insurance!
Locked,
Sure that's where Barry tells grandma to just take some painkillers and forget all about that surgery that would have helped.
LMAO...good one. Insurers will continue to deny coverage; they'll just raise the premiums to a point where the "poor uninsured" can't afford it. Then these helpless masses will run to Barry to fix everything. And of course with obamacare that is now possible.
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Do you even know what the actual concept your catchphrase tries to vilify does?
Sure that's where Barry tells grandma to just take some painkillers and forget all about that surgery that would have helped.
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Hmmmm, strangely enough they will still pay more. The difference being, people can no longer be denied coverage. They still need to pay for it though.
LMAO...good one. Insurers will continue to deny coverage; they'll just raise the premiums to a point where the "poor uninsured" can't afford it. Then these helpless masses will run to Barry to fix everything. And of course with obamacare that is now possible.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
even you have know that forcing someone to pay for your health insurance is wrong.
I already have health insurance. If anything, I'm forcing you to pay for someone else's insurance
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Locked,
Sure that's where Barry tells grandma to just take some painkillers and forget all about that surgery that would have helped.
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Do you even know what the actual concept your catchphrase tries to vilify does?
Sure that's where Barry tells grandma to just take some painkillers and forget all about that surgery that would have helped.
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Insurers will continue to deny coverage; they'll just raise the premiums to a point where the "poor uninsured" can't afford it. Then these helpless masses will run to Barry to fix everything. And of course with obamacare that is now possible.
Good point. More regulation is needed.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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