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#1 Mar 18 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
Barry,

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"By the time the vote has taken place, not only I will know what's in it, you'll know what's in it because it's going to be posted and everybody's going to be able to evaluate it on the merits," he said.



How about we know what's in it before we're asked to vote on it. How does that sound?

So can anyone link me to the final draft so I can evaluate it?



#2 Mar 18 2010 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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No.
#3 Mar 18 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
You can't because it's not there. Obama is praying he can sneak this through.

#4 Mar 18 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't because it's not going up until the CBO numbers are released and then it is supposed to have a 72 hr review period where you can read it until your little heart swells with joy and love.
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#5 Mar 18 2010 at 8:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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CBO numbers out this morning. Expect the bill to be up soon if it isn't already.
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The CBO projects President Obama's health care bill will cost $940 billion and cut the deficit by $130 billion over the next decade, The Hill reports.

The bill is more expensive than the House or Senate bills, "though the CBO said that the current bill, which builds off the Senate's bill with changes to it, would make larger reductions in the deficit."

"The release of the CBO score sets into motion a 72-hour endgame on health care that could mean a vote in the House on the package as early as Sunday morning."
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#6 Mar 18 2010 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
Only a Democrat can write this with a straight face;

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The CBO projects President Obama's health care bill will cost $940 billion and cut the deficit by $130 billion


#7 Mar 18 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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Yet another sockpuppet account, Virus? Did you get yourself banned again? How many times does that make now?
#8 Mar 18 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Only a Democrat can write this with a straight face;
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The CBO projects President Obama's health care bill will cost $940 billion and cut the deficit by $130 billion

Check it out, Varus has no idea how the budget works! Who's surprised?

It seems the CBO numbers were a leak and the bill won't be up until the official numbers come out.

Edited, Mar 18th 2010 10:00am by Jophiel
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#9 Mar 18 2010 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dear Varus,

Stop stealing material from James Taranto. Other conservative-type people actually enjoy his column, and would prefer not to see its contents bastardized by a sorry hack.

Regards,
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#10 Mar 18 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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Check it out, Varus has no idea how the budget works! Who's surprised?



Sorry no matter how you spin it this just sounds funny;

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will cost $940 billion and cut the deficit by $130 billion


#11 Mar 18 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
Dear Demea,

Who?



#12 Mar 18 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Watch out, Joph!! Varus has temporary rating abilities!!!
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If you're an idiot, I guess or just have no idea what you're talking about.
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#14 Mar 18 2010 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Watch out, Joph!! Varus has temporary rating abilities!!!

Zoinks!
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#15 Mar 18 2010 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
The Democrats have inspired me to be apathetic towards politics. It's not as bad as when I loathed them under Dubya, but not as good when I actually thought Obama could accomplish something with a majority in both houses of Congress.

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I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat.


Now, they've fucked themselves into a catch 22.
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#16 Mar 18 2010 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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Now, they've fucked themselves into a catch 22.

To the surprise of no one who actually looked in to the President before the election.
#17 Mar 18 2010 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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Yet another sockpuppet account, Virus? Did you get yourself banned again? How many times does that make now?
He emptied his cache and "forgot" his password.
#18 Mar 18 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Official CBO numbers released. If you can't noodle out the CBO's web address, you probably shouldn't be in this thread anyway.
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#19 Mar 18 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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Actually, I want to say that this isn't Virus. If I remember correctly and the screenname is a variation of his old one, this is a conservative that lived in Southern California and possibly is in the El Centro area now? Loved to do his MMA and cage fighting.

I only remember because he thought I was a dude.
#20 Mar 18 2010 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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I only remember because he thought I was a dude.

So the c0ck shots were photoshopped?
#21 Mar 18 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Actually, I want to say that this isn't Virus. If I remember correctly and the screenname is a variation of his old one, this is a conservative that lived in Southern California and possibly is in the El Centro area now? Loved to do his MMA and cage fighting.
knoxxsouthy and publiusvarrus etc are all the same poster.
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#22 Mar 18 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I only remember because he thought I was a dude.

So the c0ck shots were photoshopped?


I wore a strap-on and he couldn't tell the difference between flesh and plastic.
#23 Mar 18 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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Official CBO numbers released




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“The Congressional Budget Office has confirmed that there is currently no official cost estimate.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36091

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“Although CBO completed a preliminary review of legislative language prior to its release, the agency has not thoroughly examined the reconciliation proposal to verify its consistency with the previous draft. This estimate is therefore preliminary, pending a review of the language of the reconciliation proposal, as well as further review and refinement of the budgetary projections.” (CBO Director Doug Elmendorf, Letter To Rep. Nancy Pelosi, 3/18/10, P.1)



So no the numbers havn't been released. But h*ll as long as the liberal media is willing to sell it to you you buy it hook line and sinker.

This is why liberals can't be trusted with anything major, much less our healthcare.





Edited, Mar 18th 2010 12:08pm by knoxxsouthy
#24 Mar 18 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
Having just read through the first couple of pages of the preliminary report released today, I have to say based on the opening paragraphs it does look more like a SWAG than anything.
#25 Mar 18 2010 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
So no the numbers havn't been released. But h*ll as long as the liberal media is willing to sell it to you you buy it hook line and sinker.

It's official in that the numbers are actually from the CBO and not from a secondary source.

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This is why liberals can't be trusted with anything major, much less our healthcare.

They scare you with their literacy?
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#26 Mar 18 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

Nope...they scare me with their group think attitude.

Oh and the Dems lost another vote. lmao

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