Good fences make good neighborsFollow

I say we just conquer Mexico and be done with it. I never understood why Manifest Destiny didn't include south of the border, too.

Incidentally, if we sent a bunch of people to take a bat to every car window they saw, and then hired a bunch of people to fix them, we'd give people jobs, too!!!

Jobs doing something useful versus jobs doing something non-useful would seem to be the operative word here.

Point being, having decided to build a wall, we should be doing so in a sane manner. But the government never seems to do anything in a sane manner. Good thing we're putting them in charge of health care though!

Sigh...

So, Boeing gets this contract in 2006:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/21/business/main2031319.shtml

The Pubbies must have really pushed this boondoggle, and now that the current administration is cutting it back, and perhaps even cancelling it pending investigation, somehow this is related to health care in Gbaji's eyes.

Remind me again who these "fiscal conservatives" are. I don't seem to see any in the Republican party anywhere.

Are you saying that if a wall had been constructed on time and on budget it would not have served the function for which it was built? You compared it to smashing windows so that you could hire people to fix the windows. That would imply that there is some action analogous to the smashing of the windows here which makes the whole thing self perpetuating.

Which is false. Illegal immigrants are going to attempt to sneak across the border whether we built any sort of fence or not. The "problem" exists. You may not agree it is a problem, but that discussion has nothing to do with whether or not the wall could have been built cost effectively if it wasn't so mired in government ridiculousness (which was the point *you* were responding to).



And how this related to health care is that if we can't manage to spend money effectively on something as incredibly simplistic as "protecting a border", something which man has been doing for thousands of years, how on earth does anyone expect the same government to effectively do something much more complicated like manage health care? Do you think that the government will just magically start being efficient and effective just because the issue is health care? Or do you perhaps understand that the more money is at stake the *less* efficient government gets (cause there are people involved and they tend to like to get themselves a slice of the action along the way)?

Just checking. If your issue is that you like one thing and don't like another, then that's just peachy. But then say that. Don't avoid the issue of preference by instead making an inconsistent argument about efficiency. If you don't like the border fence and cheer it not being built, then don't pretend that your objection is that it's been inefficiently handled.

You're taking my analogy far too seriously. In fact, I think analogies are generally pretty stupid.

Wait, you think coyotes are prairie dogs?

Sorry, prairie wolf.

Get ready for open borders...Obama's p*ssed off every moderate/independent and he's got to make up those votes from somewhere.

Glad to have you on board

I reckon a big fuck off wall around the USA is a splendid idea!

I'll donate generously, but only if there are observation windows so the rest of us can still come along and have a good laugh at you all.