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#1 Mar 15 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sigh. I really don't know what to think about chicks like Rielle Hunter.

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But the irony of what you're saying—right now, most people think he's the most untruthful person in America.
You know, it's so fascinating to me how people perceive things. Everyone talks about how Johnny has fallen from grace. In reality, he's fallen to grace. He is integrated. He is living a life of truth. He has grown in awareness and humility. He had all these things within him, but they weren't the guiding, leading principles of his life. Now they are.


I had a conversation with my friend today where his wife talks to this dude routinely, and he complimented her a few times, then made some comments about how she was sexy a few times, and finally out-and-out propositioned her for oral. The wife, shocked, quit talking to the guy and now says my friend overreacts in thinking that he wasn't joking, cause he probably was. I also know another married chick who routinely hugs and hangs on single guys, goes out and gets drunk with them and then is amazed when they hit on her on the ride home and acts all offended and shit.

Who are these thirtysomething ingenue types? Who are the men who are buying this shit? Are there really women out there past 25 who don't understand basic male-female dynamics? Maybe I don't get it because all my life, I've been closer to a dude in my thinking--if I want to bang you, you'll be the first to know. Guys apparently really eat this crap up, though. It keeps working.

1. No way a girl reaches 25 and can't tell when she is approachable sending signals. (And don't fucking rape-thead me, assholes. I mean in a non-rape scenario). T/F
2. I'm a dude, and I love a flirt. Makes me feel all macho and shit. T/F
#2 Mar 15 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't always tell when guys are flirting with me, but I sure as hell know when I'm flirting with them.

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I also know another married chick who routinely hugs and hangs on single guys, goes out and gets drunk with them and then is amazed when they hit on her on the ride home and acts all offended and ****.


Yeah, I know that hussy.

Here's the thing: I have nothing at all against married people flirting as long as both parties know it's just flirting. Attention without intention, and all that.

The instant it starts to cross that line, one or both parties should back away.

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#3 Mar 15 2010 at 3:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ms. Hunter apparently cried for two solid hours upon seeing the GQ photos, she told Barbara Walters. Ms. Walters helpfully pointed out that Ms. Hunter dressed and posed for the photos to which the wounded Ms. Hunter said she was just "going with the flow".

Smiley: dubious
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#4 Mar 15 2010 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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I joke, but I don't really flirt. I feel sort of ridiculous flirting, truth be known.
#5 Mar 15 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Ms. Hunter apparently cried for two solid hours upon seeing the GQ photos, she told Barbara Walters. Ms. Walters helpfully pointed out that Ms. Hunter dressed and posed for the photos to which the wounded Ms. Hunter said she was just "going with the flow".

Smiley: dubious


Apparently this is how she chooses to live her entire life. Just go with the flow and hey! presto! a married man's baby pops out. Who knew?

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#6 Mar 15 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Ms. Hunter apparently cried for two solid hours upon seeing the GQ photos, she told Barbara Walters. Ms. Walters helpfully pointed out that Ms. Hunter dressed and posed for the photos to which the wounded Ms. Hunter said she was just "going with the flow".

Smiley: dubious
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#7 Mar 15 2010 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
I don't know what the confusion is. I believe there are women that dumb out there, I just chose a long time ago not to hang out with them if I wanted to get my pinky stinky. I am not a fan of prudes, especially the flirty types. I was a teenage boy once, and put away those childish things when I became a man.
#8 Mar 15 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but when you know a man is married, you don't tell him he's "so hot," then offer to "help" him and run to call him when he begs you to do so.

Also, this was priceless:

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And you knew that in the first few seconds?
Upon sight. So I called him about a half hour later. And I got a voice mail in the room, so I hung up. Did not leave a message. Because I did not know what was appropriate. I knew he was married, and I didn't know if his wife was with him, you know; I didn't know what was appropriate. And this was not—there was no sexual intention here at all.


Yeah, no sexual intention. If that was true, it wouldn't be a problem for his wife to know you called, right?

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I had a conversation with my friend today where his wife talks to this dude routinely, and he complimented her a few times, then made some comments about how she was sexy a few times, and finally out-and-out propositioned her for oral. The wife, shocked, quit talking to the guy and now says my friend overreacts in thinking that he wasn't joking, cause he probably was. I also know another married chick who routinely hugs and hangs on single guys, goes out and gets drunk with them and then is amazed when they hit on her on the ride home and acts all offended and ****.

Who are these thirtysomething ingenue types? Who are the men who are buying this ****? Are there really women out there past 25 who don't understand basic male-female dynamics? Maybe I don't get it because all my life, I've been closer to a dude in my thinking--if I want to bang you, you'll be the first to know. Guys apparently really eat this crap up, though. It keeps working.


These chicks know what they're doing. I don't buy that they're shocked when guys hit on them, that's what they thrive on. There are also guys who like to play this part, as well.... Smiley: mad
#9 Mar 15 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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1) F, some people really are that dumb. Enough said
2) T, minus the macho and ****.
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#10 Mar 15 2010 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
These chicks know what they're doing. I don't buy that they're shocked when guys hit on them, that's what they thrive on. There are also guys who like to play this part, as well.... Smiley: mad

While I can't speak for any of these women, I can see how it is very possible to be acting in a way that is perceived to be sexually suggestive or inviting to many people but not be aware of that perception by others. Typically straight males respond positively when an attractive female plays or teases them, and this provides positive reinforcement for that behavior.

Most people accept the situation where an individual is completely oblivious to intent as the recipient of solicitous behavior, why not as the performer?
#11 Mar 15 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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AtomicFlea wrote:
1. No way a girl reaches 25 and can't tell when she is approachable sending signals. T/F


As presented in her own interview, absolutely true. You don't "innocently" act like that with a guy, particularly a married guy. That wasn't flirting. That was purely lookin' to get laid action, sorry.

I understand about sexual chemistry. It's very compelling. It's not so compelling as to excuse subsequent behavior, however, up to and including not using a goddamn condom

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#12 Mar 15 2010 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
These chicks know what they're doing. I don't buy that they're shocked when guys hit on them, that's what they thrive on. There are also guys who like to play this part, as well.... Smiley: mad

While I can't speak for any of these women, I can see how it is very possible to be acting in a way that is perceived to be sexually suggestive or inviting to many people but not be aware of that perception by others. Typically straight males respond positively when an attractive female plays or teases them, and this provides positive reinforcement for that behavior.

Most people accept the situation where an individual is completely oblivious to intent as the recipient of solicitous behavior, why not as the performer?


I suppose it's possible that there is a 25-30 year old woman out there who has lived in a box and has no idea what crosses the line in flirting. I highly doubt it, but I suppose it's true.

I also don't believe that there are that many people who are oblivious to the receipt of such behavior. I think in that situation, they enjoy the attention to an extent, and if they aren't interested in sex, it's easier to ignore it and pretend you had no idea than to address the issue. I do, however, believe that it's much, much easier to misinterpret someone elses actions than your own.

But, more specifically, I was talking about the women Flea was giving examples of, and the mistress in the article specifically.
#13 Mar 15 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I also don't believe that there are that many people who are oblivious to the receipt of such behavior.

Oh I know a few who genuinely are.
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But, more specifically, I was talking about the women Flea was giving examples of, and the mistress in the article specifically.

I realized, but I wanted to offer another explanation which I felt wasn't too unlikely.
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#15 Mar 15 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:

1. No way a girl reaches 25 and can't tell when she is approachable sending signals. (And don't fucking rape-thead me, assholes. I mean in a non-rape scenario). T/F
I'll say true but with a caveat; Sometimes women and men have these romance fantasies. If you are simply being polite to some guy that has recently been doin'ya in his dreams, he could take that politness the wrong way.

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2. I'm a dude, and I love a flirt. Makes me feel all macho and shit. T/F
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#16 Mar 16 2010 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
I joke, but I don't really flirt. I feel sort of ridiculous flirting, truth be known.


This. Never been a flirt that I'm aware of. I might have done it a few times when I was drunk... but never intentionally. Not only do I feel ridiculous doing it, I think it's kind of stupid.
#17 Mar 16 2010 at 7:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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From the interview, I did find this kind of funny and sad:

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It's so astonishing to me how factually incorrect things are on the Internet.


No... really?
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#18 Mar 16 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know if the women you are referring to truly are stupid, or just devotees of the Blanche Dubois School of Womanhood.
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