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#27 Mar 10 2010 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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No, you just need to bring in mediums to do a seance afterwards. Now THAT gets pricey.
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#28REDACTED, Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 2:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Samy,
#29 Mar 10 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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She doesn't have to have walked the 90 miles to the clinic herself to have derived the benefit from having it available. And incidentally free or very low cost.

Right?

Get it?

No, I didn't think you would. OH WELL.

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#30 Mar 10 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
It's common knowledge that the medical facilities in the Yukon are world class.

* World class defined as the offer more procedures than the majority of health clinics in the developing countries of west Africa
#31 Mar 10 2010 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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"There was no road out of there at that time," said retired teacher Chuck Heath, reached by phone in Wasilla. "The ferry schedule was very erratic. We had no doctor in Skagway. The plane schedule was very erratic. The winds dictated whether the planes could come in or not."

Now, I'm in favor of socialized health care as much as anyone, but "there was no other doctor close enough" doesn't exactly make it sound like they took advantage of the Canadian hospital because it was socialized. It's fairly ridiculous to claim that because her family once used a socialized system decades ago - for reasons having nothing to do with its socialization - that she can't legitimately be opposed to it now.
#32REDACTED, Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 3:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Majivo,
#33 Mar 10 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Again, and for the last time: the point is not that they used the clinic. The point is that later in her life, knowing what she knows about socialized medicine first hand, she still characterized it as pure evil.

Pure fUCking EVIL.




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#34 Mar 10 2010 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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"There was no road out of there at that time," said retired teacher Chuck Heath, reached by phone in Wasilla. "The ferry schedule was very erratic. We had no doctor in Skagway. The plane schedule was very erratic. The winds dictated whether the planes could come in or not."

Now, I'm in favor of socialized health care as much as anyone, but "there was no other doctor close enough" doesn't exactly make it sound like they took advantage of the Canadian hospital because it was socialized. It's fairly ridiculous to claim that because her family once used a socialized system decades ago - for reasons having nothing to do with its socialization - that she can't legitimately be opposed to it now.
What it shows, is that with socialized healthcare, you can have doctors in area where they normally wouldn't be as private clinics couldn't survive econocmially. But that point is kinda null and void as Whitehorse is the largest city in the area and therefore would have a hospital being the area's focal point.
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#35 Mar 10 2010 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Again, and for the last time: the point is not that they used the clinic. The point is that later in her life, knowing what she knows about socialized medicine first hand, she still characterized it as pure evil.

Pure fUCking EVIL.

This is just as ridiculous. She knows what about it first hand? That her family went to a socialized hospital once when she was still in her pre-teens? Her experiences had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it was socialized. It's not as though, at six years old, she went to the hospital and said "oh my, see what wonderful work they're doing for the people here." She was a child. You might as well say that she's an expert on foreign policy because Alaska's so close to Russia. It's nice and all, but completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
#36ThiefX, Posted: Mar 10 2010 at 6:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So that we all understand. Sarah Palin used Canada's healthcare system more than a DECADE ago so this means we should turn over 1/8th of the US economy over to the government?
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we should turn over 1/8th of the US economy over to the government?

You libs are really reaching these days man. Seriously stop your embarrassing yourselves.

Tee-hee.
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#38 Mar 10 2010 at 7:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is just as ridiculous. She knows what about it first hand? That her family went to a socialized hospital once when she was still in her pre-teens?


Yes, exactly. Bravo to you for sussing it out. She knows that she was the beneficiary of Canadian medicine when she was a child and she is working feverishly to deny American children the equivalent.

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#39 Mar 10 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
It's common knowledge that the medical facilities in the Yukon are world class.
I hear their gold potatoes are delicious.
#40 Mar 10 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
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This is just as ridiculous. She knows what about it first hand? That her family went to a socialized hospital once when she was still in her pre-teens?


Yes, exactly. Bravo to you for sussing it out. She knows that she was the beneficiary of Canadian medicine when she was a child and she is working feverishly to deny American children the equivalent.


Except that she's not. It's like saying that anyone against socialized medicine is trying to wipe out medicine in general. She didn't reap the benefits of socialized health care; she reaped the benefits of there being a hospital in a nearby major city, which is completely irrelevant to the country's health care model. Besides which, it's entirely possible for people who have received socialized health care in its entirety - by which I mean to a greater extent than having gone to a hospital in Canada - to be opposed to it in general. It is possible to benefit from a system yet still recognize that it has flaws or that there are superior alternatives.
#41 Mar 10 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Except that she's not.


Except that she is. When you call something pure evil it generally means that you oppose it with every fiber of your being. Or at least that it plays well to a crowd.

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Majivo wrote:
It is possible to benefit from a system yet still recognize that it has flaws or that there are superior alternatives.
Oh, it has flaws, but I have yet to see a superior alternative.
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#43 Mar 10 2010 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Except that she's not.


Except that she is. When you call something pure evil it generally means that you oppose it with every fiber of your being. Or at least that it plays well to a crowd.


Poor communication on my part. I meant to say that she isn't acting hypocritically by doing it, which I thought was clear from the rest of my post.

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It is possible to benefit from a system yet still recognize that it has flaws or that there are superior alternatives.

Oh, it has flaws, but I have yet to see a superior alternative.

I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that she does not, and can legitimately argue against it regardless of her prior experiences which, in reality, have next to nothing to do with it.
#44 Mar 10 2010 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, we just disagree. That's allowed.

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#45 Mar 10 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Well, we just disagree. That's allowed.

Not here it isn't.
#46 Mar 11 2010 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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