There's an annoying British cook named Jamie Oliver. He's a chavvy Essex boy, but man, can he cook. He also has a social conscience, and campaigns for people to stop eating junk food, pre-packaged frozen and chilled ready meals, and promotes cheap, easy-to-cook healthy food.
His recent campaign in the UK is starting to have an impact, with school meals being healthier, and more and more schools teaching kids how to use fresh produce to create meals that are cheaper and healthier than the ***** advertised on TV.
His latest campaign is trying to wake up the parents in Uncle Sam to the time-bomb of childhood obesity.
There's an petition if you're that way inclined.
So to U.S. colleagues, what u fink?
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I'm all for it! Being a fatty adult is one thing, but we shouldn't let kids eat whatever kind of crap they want.
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 6:59pm by Lefein
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 6:59pm by Lefein
Yes, I'm sure all those lonely, obese grade school boys are a burden for you.
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What's a pedobear to do?!
I saw his commercial last night and laughed and laughed at his pollyanna dream of changing America's eating habits.
"Look! A giant pile of hamburgers! This is how many you eat every year!"
"Gadzooks!"
"Glad I showed you the light"
"See ya later then. (to other person) Want to run by McDonald's on the way home?"
"Look! A giant pile of hamburgers! This is how many you eat every year!"
"Gadzooks!"
"Glad I showed you the light"
"See ya later then. (to other person) Want to run by McDonald's on the way home?"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
If I were to act merely in my own self-interest I'd be encouraging them to eat eat eat. I can run faster than they can and would be capable of stealing some food from their massive stockpiles.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure it'll change the culture right away (part of the reason the schools serve these foods are because they are dirt cheap), but I applaud him for trying.
I eat ****** food daily. It's part of being an American. When I move to New Zealand, I expect they'll open a McDonald's solely on my behalf.
It's been nearly a year now since I decided, on my own, to more closely monitor my eating habits. Specifically, what I eat, with a lesser emphasis on quantity. I'm happy that I just started fitting into 38 inch waisted pants, four inches less than this time last year.
But the children of America? Fuck em. I've also come to the realization that I'm an evolutionary dead end, so my care for the state of the world has drastically decreased. The planet could go directly into the shitter after I'm gone for all I care.
So, I guess what I'm really trying to say is lolinternetpetition.
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 7:19pm by NixNot
But the children of America? Fuck em. I've also come to the realization that I'm an evolutionary dead end, so my care for the state of the world has drastically decreased. The planet could go directly into the shitter after I'm gone for all I care.
So, I guess what I'm really trying to say is lolinternetpetition.
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 7:19pm by NixNot
Is the stuff he's been doing catching on then? That's awesome. I've been following some of his work via his shows, and I wasn't sure if it would
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So I take it that means no Nixnot clone army?
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure it'll change the culture right away (part of the reason the schools serve these foods are because they are dirt cheap), but I applaud him for trying.
I think it's just plain laziness on the part of parents. It's cheaper to make foods fresh than to serve pre-packaged garbage. It just takes more time. In the schools, time==money, which is why they serve what they do. But at home, there isn't a whole lot of excuse for buying fast food instead of cooking decent meals for your kids.
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AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
I eat sh*tty food daily. It's part of being an American. When I move to New Zealand, I expect they'll open a McDonald's solely on my behalf.
Don't worry. Kiwis are known for eating shitty food. You'll fit right in...
Wait! What? You're moving to New Zealand???
May I recommend Otara. It will be right up your street...(and nowhere near mine)
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
We rarely opt for fast food at home. I'm 285 lbs and starting to loose weight finally, I definitely don't want my girls following in my footsteps. We eat home-cooked meals nearly every night, and they get a wide variety of things. Doesn't mean they eat it always, more than once Aedyn has gone to bed without dinner because she doesn't want to eat what we are eating and I'm not about to cook two dinners just so she can have what she wants. Seems to be working, they try more things than other kids their age.
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 8:06pm by Wint
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 8:06pm by Wint
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure it'll change the culture right away (part of the reason the schools serve these foods are because they are dirt cheap), but I applaud him for trying.
I think it's just plain laziness on the part of parents. It's cheaper to make foods fresh than to serve pre-packaged garbage. It just takes more time. In the schools, time==money, which is why they serve what they do. But at home, there isn't a whole lot of excuse for buying fast food instead of cooking decent meals for your kids.
I think people are just intimidated by the curve of getting into it. Getting used to knowing how to buy food so that you can buy in bulk etc, how to use spices. If you haven't grown up with that, I can't imagine it's easy.
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 8:08pm by Xsarus
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Timelordwho wrote:
So I take it that means no Nixnot clone army?
Damn, who'll fight the polyAnnas now?
Sir Xsarus wrote:
You can get pre packaged frozen meals for like a dollar a person. It takes someone who is organized, and can buy in bulk to come close to that. You're also not going to be getting a lot of fresh veggies for that kind of price. Sure the food is sh*t, but it is cheap.
Yeah. We've done the math on this in past threads. And if it were nothing but packaged frozen dinners (and cheap ones at that), you might have a point. But when you add the total cost for packaged lunch and breakfast stuff, the cost shifts pretty quickly in the other direction.
And that ignores what is arguably the number one source of "bad food" our kids eat: Fast food.
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I think people are just intimidated by the curve of getting into it. Getting used to knowing how to buy food so that you can buy in bulk etc, how to use spices. If you haven't grown up with that, I can't imagine it's easy.
They used to teach this stuff in school. Somewhere along the line certain political organizations decided that it was somehow sexist to teach classes on home economics, cooking, etc, and those things are largely not available in public schools even as electives anymore. It's not surprising that a couple generations later, there are young adults out there who have not only never done those sorts of things, but they never saw their parents do them either...
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I think people are just intimidated by the curve of getting into it. Getting used to knowing how to buy food so that you can buy in bulk etc, how to use spices. If you haven't grown up with that, I can't imagine it's easy.
My only other hurdle is textures. I'm still trying to get used to the texture of citrus fruits. They still send a shiver up my spine for some reason, but I'm getting over it.
gbaji wrote:
And that ignores what is arguably the number one source of "bad food" our kids eat: Fast food.
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I think people are just intimidated by the curve of getting into it. Getting used to knowing how to buy food so that you can buy in bulk etc, how to use spices. If you haven't grown up with that, I can't imagine it's easy.
They used to teach this stuff in school. Somewhere along the line certain political organizations decided that it was somehow sexist to teach classes on home economics, cooking, etc, and those things are largely not available in public schools even as electives anymore. It's not surprising that a couple generations later, there are young adults out there who have not only never done those sorts of things, but they never saw their parents do them either...
Edited, Mar 8th 2010 8:35pm by Xsarus
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If I had a lawn, I would have a vegetable garden. Yea, there would be a lot of work for the fruits and vegetables I get, but I love gardening so it's not so big a deal.
I remember in California, I had delightful citrus trees and an avocado tree. The oranges were amazingly juicy and sweet with just enough tartness to satisfy. The apple tree... oh boy that was a mistake. One bite and I find a wormy mess. I couldn't spit it out fast enough.
I remember in California, I had delightful citrus trees and an avocado tree. The oranges were amazingly juicy and sweet with just enough tartness to satisfy. The apple tree... oh boy that was a mistake. One bite and I find a wormy mess. I couldn't spit it out fast enough.
Fast food is quite rare around here, though not everything we eat is exactly fresh (I'm talking to you, Mr. Chef Boy-ar-dee). Thom does greatly enjoy fresh fruits and vegetables.
My brother's family, on the other hand, is another story entirely. As far as I can tell the only thing his "fiancee" (welfare-*****-babys-momma) feeds her kids are McDonald's and Banquet frozen dinners.
My brother's family, on the other hand, is another story entirely. As far as I can tell the only thing his "fiancee" (welfare-*****-babys-momma) feeds her kids are McDonald's and Banquet frozen dinners.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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If anything those classes went the way of art and music classes: budget cuts + NCLB.
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I took Home Ec. in junior high. But we just baked cakes, pies, and made various deserts. Nothing actually meal worthy.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I've never noticed that, and honestly it doesn't ring true. People used to learn how to cook at home from their parents.
Sure. And lots of people still do. But as more families became two-income homes, the need for Home Ec classes to fill that gap increased. But over that same period of time, the availability of those classes has decreased instead.
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I really doubt home ec ever was a major factor that taught kids how to cook, but hey I might be wrong, do you have any articles about this? Besides which I haven't seen this trend away from home-ec. It was always offered in every school I attended, and the people having trouble with this are older then I am.
Admittedly, purely anecdotal. But a quick search of the web indicates that I'm not the only person arriving at that same anecdotal conclusion. It might be some states though. In California, while I'd heard of Home Economics (usually in the context of a joke), I've never actually seen one, or attended a school which offered one. We did have a couple course offerings that were similar (consumer math was the "home oriented" economics class, but it wasn't really the same thing). There was certainly nothing intended to help teach people how to run a home (balancing checkbooks, working out meal plans, shopping lists, etc...).
It seems to me that a lot of that stuff got absorbed into broader topics, then had stuff like sex education, health (or "wellness") tossed in, and ultimately the original curriculum of practical stuff got lost in the midst of a bunch of more theoretical teachings. That's nice and all, but it means that a whole lot of high school graduates today don't have a clue how to manage basic finances, cook anything more complicated than scrambled eggs, or iron a shirt.
Maybe it was different where you grew up...
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I had home ec in middle school. We learned how to make pigs in a blanket. But mostly it was stuff on food safety - we learned why you wash your hands after messing with chicken, etc.
Well, at least we have Food Network and Alton Brown to save us.
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