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#77 Mar 08 2010 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
Tarv, sorry to hear.
I was 12 when my parents split and I'm certain all four of the kids agree that it was better for us after that point. Obviously every situation is different, but in my case if someone said they should have stayed together longer "for the kids" - of course I can't know for certain - but it seems very unlikely that would have worked out for us.
#78REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sweets,
#79 Mar 09 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bring what up, exactly? That you have no intention of marrying her because of your enormous assets?

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#80 Mar 09 2010 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
I've heard it's not how big his assets are but how far up his *** they reside that's the problem.
#81 Mar 09 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
Samira wrote:
Bring what up, exactly? That you have no intention of marrying her because of your enormous assets?



This just in! A woman in Knoxville, TN is close to breaking the Guinness Book of World Records, as she simply cannot stop laughing. Between gasps for breath, this reporter was able to understand that she was asked by an East Tennessee man to sign a pre-nuptual agreement, and the details stipulated that she was not to touch his "okra patch, $150 steak, or Altima with CD changer."
#82 Mar 09 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Samira wrote:
Bring what up, exactly? That you have no intention of marrying her because of your enormous assets?



This just in! A woman in Knoxville, TN is close to breaking the Guinness Book of World Records, as she simply cannot stop laughing. Between gasps for breath, this reporter was able to understand that she was asked by an East Tennessee man to sign a pre-nuptual agreement, and the details stipulated that she was not to touch his "okra patch, $150 steak, or Altima with CD changer."

Don't even try to bag on the Altima. Those things are ********
#83 Mar 09 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
[quote=Samira]Bring what up, exactly? That you have no intention of marrying her because of your enormous assets?



This just in! A woman in Knoxville, TN is close to breaking the Guinness Book of World Records, as she simply cannot stop laughing. Between gasps for breath, this reporter was able to understand that she was asked by an East Tennessee man to sign a pre-nuptual agreement, and the details stipulated that she was not to touch his "okra patch, $150 steak, or Altima with CD changer."

Don't even try to bag on the Altima. Those things are ****************

'Specially when it has a CD changer. Smiley: nod
#84 Mar 09 2010 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
[quote=Samira]Bring what up, exactly? That you have no intention of marrying her because of your enormous assets?



This just in! A woman in Knoxville, TN is close to breaking the Guinness Book of World Records, as she simply cannot stop laughing. Between gasps for breath, this reporter was able to understand that she was asked by an East Tennessee man to sign a pre-nuptual agreement, and the details stipulated that she was not to touch his "okra patch, $150 steak, or Altima with CD changer."

Don't even try to bag on the Altima. Those things are ****************

'Specially when it has a CD changer. Smiley: nod
If it breaks, I have a ******* collection I can sell him!
#85REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2010 at 12:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) and my sunroof...
#86 Mar 09 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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I'd assume you'd be getting nothing as well.
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#87 Mar 09 2010 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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and my sunroof...

But besides the house, land, the gold, snazy car (cd changer included), the boat, and the business she'd get nothing.

When Glenn Beck says "buy gold!" he doesn't mean get your teeth capped, Varus.
#88 Mar 09 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
and my sunroof...

But besides the house, land, the gold, snazy car (cd changer included), the boat, and the business she'd get nothing.

When Glenn Beck says "buy gold!" he doesn't mean get your teeth capped, Varus.


When Glenn Beck says "buy gold" he means he has a lot of gold on hand and wants to inflate its value.
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#89 Mar 09 2010 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
and my sunroof...

But besides the house, land, the gold, snazy car (cd changer included), the boat, and the business she'd get nothing.

When Glenn Beck says "buy gold!" he doesn't mean get your teeth capped, Varus.


When Glenn Beck says "buy gold" he means he has a lot of gold on hand and wants to inflate its value.

Everything cool that I just wrote, you messed it up.
#90 Mar 09 2010 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I've always wondered about the "for the childrens' sake" argument. While my parents weren't at each others' throats, they stayed married for something like thirty years until my father died and seemed mildly irritated the whole time.

I'd think that divorce can be for the benefit of the childrens' well-being, not despite. Like, if it's shown that one of the parents is a useless waste of meat who can't be ***** to (or trusted to) take care of their own kids.
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#91 Mar 09 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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To clarify, not that I think it needs it: I didn't say people should stay together in miserable silent angry pain "for the children". I said, or at least meant to say, that before you make the decision to bring children into your marriage you should commit to working on the marriage.

Before that point, who gives a fUCk whether you stay married or not? Sure, in theory it matters, social stability, blah blah. But when you decide to drag an innocent or two into your life, I just think it behooves you to take some damn responsibility for making that life a stable one, and part of that is working on your marriage. Marriage may or may not be a blessed state, but even I know this much: It ain't automatic, it ain't guaranteed, and it ain't effortless.

Anyway, enough from me on this subject. More than enough, I'd imagine.



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#92 Mar 09 2010 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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Tarv, my heart goes out to you man. I hope you and the kids get through this as safely as possible in the hurt dept.

I'm a big fan of taking marriage for what it means with major exceptions such as abuse. For me marriage is life. It's also why I am fully behind living with a person for a couple of years before saying I DO, making little demon spawns, and then realizing holy fuck what did I chain myself to?

But abuse isnt always so cut and dry. It isnt always physical. I tend to think mental and emotional abuse is much much worse and leaves bigger scars that dont go away as easily in the long run. I dont know your history Tarv, but if you're saying that example was on a good day, if you have already tried counseling multiple times, and anything else you can think of to work it out, and you made damn sure she knew how you felt about this and still didnt care? It's not always the end of the world to cut your losses.

Per divorce and kidlets: It takes a strong set of parents, but more often one insanely strong balls of steel parent, to do their damndest to ensure no matter what happens behind closed doors with Mommy and Daddy, the kids are kept out of it. Too often the parents use the kids as pawns and that can really fuck the kids up. Im just stating this now, if your soon to be ex decides to try and play the kids against you, no matter what dont play the games. If she makes you out to be a bad guy, dont fight back with your kids. You may not get rewarded for your behavior now, but the kids will understand you were and are the better man in the long run. Just dont ever, ever put your kids in the middle. Walk away from the situation she wants to fight about if it means a fight that can hurt them.

Anyways, good luck.

Edited, Mar 9th 2010 7:18pm by DSD
#93 Mar 09 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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But abuse isnt always so cut and dry. It isnt always physical. I tend to think mental and emotional abuse is much much worse and leaves bigger scars that dont go away as easily in the long run.


Yeah, obviously being physically abused by someone ostensibly in love with you doesn't cause lasting psychological harm.

#94 Mar 09 2010 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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But abuse isnt always so cut and dry. It isnt always physical. I tend to think mental and emotional abuse is much much worse and leaves bigger scars that dont go away as easily in the long run.


Yeah, obviously being physically abused by someone ostensibly in love with you doesn't cause lasting psychological harm.


WOOOOSH
#95 Mar 09 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
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But abuse isnt always so cut and dry. It isnt always physical. I tend to think mental and emotional abuse is much much worse and leaves bigger scars that dont go away as easily in the long run.


Yeah, obviously being physically abused by someone ostensibly in love with you doesn't cause lasting psychological harm.


WOOOOSH


I don't think so, you stupid motherfucker.
#96 Mar 09 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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ooooh, a rate down and insults! Butthurt much? The fact you cant figure out why shows a clear sign in your lack of intelligence Smiley: rolleyes
#97 Mar 09 2010 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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ooooh, a rate down and insults! Butthurt much? The fact you cant figure out why shows a clear sign in your lack of intelligence Smiley: rolleyes


Actually, that wasn't me. I just rated you down now, to prove it to you, but of course you don't move down to default after two rate downs. You'll have to ask Kaolian or something if you want proof.

P.S. Strangely enough, no change in the past few minutes. You're still stupid.
#98 Mar 09 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Actually, that wasn't me. I just rated you down now, to prove it to you, but of course you don't move down to default after two rate downs. You'll have to ask Kaolian or something if you want proof.

P.S. Strangely enough, no change in the past few minutes. You're still stupid.

You're the idiot if you think that DSD was saying that physical abuse doesn't cause lasting harm.
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#99 Mar 09 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to take some physical abuse from DSD.
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#100 Mar 09 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Actually, that wasn't me. I just rated you down now, to prove it to you, but of course you don't move down to default after two rate downs. You'll have to ask Kaolian or something if you want proof.

P.S. Strangely enough, no change in the past few minutes. You're still stupid.

You're the idiot if you think that DSD was saying that physical abuse doesn't cause lasting harm.


No, I don't think that. I certainly haven't said that, and if you have inferred it from what I have said then that's probably the result of your patina of imbecility fucking your apprehension.

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But abuse isnt always so cut and dry. It isnt always physical. I tend to think mental and emotional abuse is much much worse and leaves bigger scars that dont go away as easily in the long run.


Let's look at what this shows us, apart from that DSD has not yet let the apostrophe into her life. It's really pretty simple. Either DSD is using her own private definitions of physical and emotional abuse where there is a dichotomy between the two (where what would normally be referred to as physical abuse would have both physical and emotional components), in which case she is communicating abysmally and acting smug about it (I find this possibility unlikely), she is stupid enough to genuinely believe that physical abuse has no emotional component (again, unlikely) or she made a thoughtless comment in her rush to recite a platitude that suggested so and hasn't the spine to admit it. This is the one I believe to be the case.

There are other possibilities, of course, but they are all even worse than these ones. It's a favour not to mention them, really.

Edited, Mar 10th 2010 2:41am by Kavekk
#101 Mar 09 2010 at 8:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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the rated posts thingy only shows order in wich posts were rated, not timestamps. Kavekk wasn't the first one on that post with a red arrow, thats all I can say.

but guys, seriously, don't go toe to toe with the asylumites on karma, They'll win for one thing, but then there is the whole escalation piece, and the norating, and the paperwork, We don't want to do that.
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