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#27 Mar 05 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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Aww... c'mon! You can't start acting all gruff and cranky now that've seen the softer you, you big lug.
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#28 Mar 05 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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They can't just take him out behind the chemical sheds and shoot him?

Maybe behind the chemical toilets.
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#29 Mar 05 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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That, and the state (presumably New York) won't have to bear the expense.

Also the whole thing of finding an unbiased jury at this point. Yeah.

This has been a big issue here. The idea of holding his trial in downtown Manhattan and turning it into a three-ring media circus event is absolutely untenable.
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#30 Mar 05 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Heh, "combatants".

We could just leave it there and suss out your opinion on the whole thing.

Personally, I believe that a penalty should be commensurate, or as near to as we are able to make it, with the offense. Since we can't draw and quarter the ******* or pull his still beating heart out of his chest to make him watch it as he dies, a bullet to the base of the skull will suffice.


That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.
#31 Mar 05 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps

I'll accept that as the "You're correct, Jophiel" you intended it to be. Thank you and that was very gracious.

Why not? It fits with the rest of the leaps your arguments usually make.
I prefer Jophs leaps, as they are linear, and make sense, compared to your dimensional teleports.
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#32 Mar 05 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
The idea of holding his trial in downtown Manhattan and turning it into a three-ring media circus event is absolutely untenable.

That's probably as best a reason I've heard so far as any. Some people suggested holding a civilian trial on a military base but, from what I've heard, that's untenable for several reasons (none of which I'm prepared to get in to).
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#33 Mar 05 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.


With modern technology it's possible to bring someone to the point of legal death and back again. Divide the number of 9/11 deaths by convictee's and you end up at a number that would be technically possible within a 2 year time frame.

Just sayin', the technical capacities of Science aren't the problem here.
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#34 Mar 05 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Heh, "combatants".

We could just leave it there and suss out your opinion on the whole thing.

Personally, I believe that a penalty should be commensurate, or as near to as we are able to make it, with the offense. Since we can't draw and quarter the ******* or pull his still beating heart out of his chest to make him watch it as he dies, a bullet to the base of the skull will suffice.


That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.

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#35 Mar 05 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.


With modern technology it's possible to bring someone to the point of legal death and back again. Divide the number of 9/11 deaths by convictee's and you end up at a number that would be technically possible within a 2 year time frame.

Just sayin', the technical capacities of Science aren't the problem here.
That would start to get boring, and executions should never be boring.
#36 Mar 05 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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That would start to get boring, and executions should never be boring.


Right, you want it to be as humane as possible for the witnesses, and that means entertaining.
#37 Mar 05 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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That would start to get boring, and executions should never be boring.


Right, you want it to be as humane as possible for the witnesses, and that means entertaining.

We'll get you trained yet, hippy.
#38 Mar 05 2010 at 12:32 PM Rating: Good
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That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.


With modern technology it's possible to bring someone to the point of legal death and back again. Divide the number of 9/11 deaths by convictee's and you end up at a number that would be technically possible within a 2 year time frame.

Just sayin', the technical capacities of Science aren't the problem here.
That would start to get boring, and executions should never be boring.


Naww, you can turn it into a neat game-show. The convictee's are subjected to Survivor-esque challenges in order to determine the one who doesn't die that day. They already have experience with water-boarding for dubious information, which could be one of the challenges. Other challenges include: "Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden", an adaptation of the movie "Speed", and "Allah's Thunderdome" for the final season.
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#39 Mar 05 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Timelordwho wrote:
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That's unfortunate for you, 'cause I don't think it's possible to kill a guy three thousand times.

Still, science marches on. Maybe in a few hundred years these guys can finally be brought to justice.


With modern technology it's possible to bring someone to the point of legal death and back again. Divide the number of 9/11 deaths by convictee's and you end up at a number that would be technically possible within a 2 year time frame.

Just sayin', the technical capacities of Science aren't the problem here.
That would start to get boring, and executions should never be boring.


Naww, you can turn it into a neat game-show. The convictee's are subjected to Survivor-esque challenges in order to determine the one who doesn't die that day. They already have experience with water-boarding for dubious information, which could be one of the challenges. Other challenges include: "Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden", an adaptation of the movie "Speed", and "Allah's Thunderdome" for the final season.
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#40 Mar 05 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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#41 Mar 05 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ah, come on, they'll always save the terrorist with the best sob story, not the one the best at enduring indescribable horrors.
#42 Mar 05 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Ah, come on, they'll always save the terrorist with the best sob story, not the one the best at enduring indescribable horrors.
You see, the twist at the end is that we throw them all into a giant oven.
#43 Mar 05 2010 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
Eh, the gingerbread cottage gave it away.
#44 Mar 05 2010 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
Damn camouflage classes. WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE BEEN EASIER!!!!!
#45 Mar 05 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Eh, the gingerbread cottage gave it away.
Hilary Clinton is going to be very lonely in there. :(
#46 Mar 05 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Eh, the gingerbread cottage gave it away.
Hilary Clinton is going to be very lonely in there. :(


I wouldn't worry about it, she must be used to it by now.
#47 Mar 05 2010 at 1:02 PM Rating: Default
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Mastermind? Really now?
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#49 Mar 05 2010 at 2:03 PM Rating: Default
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Why not show that the basic rights given to every American citizen can be applied to all citizens of the world? Regardless of the nature of the crime, all people across the world should be given the right to a fair trial.


No harm can possibly come from trying suspected terrorists in civilian courts.
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#50 Mar 05 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Why not show that the basic rights given to every American citizen can be applied to all citizens of the world? Regardless of the nature of the crime, all people across the world should be given the right to a fair trial.


I've seen a few posts along these lines. Would a military trial not be fair?

Sorry if I sound naive, I really know nothing about military tribunals and the way their courts work, except that their punishments are usually pretty bad.
#51 Mar 05 2010 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
Grandfather Driftwood wrote:
Why not show that the basic rights given to every American citizen can be applied to all citizens of the world? Regardless of the nature of the crime, all people across the world should be given the right to a fair trial.

And why believe that just because a trial isn't held in front of a jury (which happens every day in America to people who didn't blow up buildings) it can't be fair?
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No harm can possibly come from trying suspected terrorists in civilian courts.

That's just stupid. Or naive.

I'll go with stupid.
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