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#52 Feb 22 2010 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Awesometastique is a bit close to Almalique.
#53 Feb 22 2010 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Sweetums wrote:
Awesometastique is a bit close to Almalique.
so an insult then
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#54 Feb 22 2010 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Awesometastique is a bit close to Almalique.
so an insult then
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#55 Feb 23 2010 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
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State Delegate Bob Marshall of Manassas says disabled children are God's punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.
At least I have some peace of mind now that I know God wreaked vengeance on Sarah Palin, Jennie McCarthy, John Travolta and Jordan Price.

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Actually, it wasn't her first child, but somewhere between her 3rd and 4th . . . she miscarried and had a D&E. (Which she got pissed off because the hospital labeled it an abortion, even though the fetus was already dead.)
Hospitals frequently document miscarriages as [insert type of] "abortion". Abortion just means the pregnancy ended before 20 weeks. Link

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A miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a fetus before the 20th week of pregnancy. (Pregnancy losses after the 20th week are called preterm deliveries.)

A miscarriage may also be called a "spontaneous abortion." This refers to naturally occurring events, not medical abortions or surgical abortions.

Other terms for the early loss of pregnancy include:

* Complete abortion: All of the products of conception exit the body
* Incomplete abortion: Only some of the products of conception exit the body
* Inevitable abortion: The symptoms cannot be stopped, and a miscarriage will happen
* Infected abortion: The lining of the womb, or uterus, and any remaining products of conception become infected
* Missed abortion: The pregnancy is lost and the products of conception do not exit the body



Edited, Feb 23rd 2010 5:38am by Atomicflea
#56 Feb 23 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Default
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Remember, I don't acknowledge the value of fetal life prior to the 3rd trimester. I believe the soul enters the body at first breath. Before then, it's a block of cancer cells as far as I'm concerned.


And this is the problem. If we can't agree that life begins at conception, and hold all parties accountable for their own acts, what can we agree on?






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If we can't agree that life begins at conception, and hold all parties accountable for their own acts, what can we agree on?

Kittens.

Unless we catch one eating a fetus.
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#58 Feb 23 2010 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
If we can't agree that life begins at conception, and hold all parties accountable for their own acts, what can we agree on?

Kittens.

Unless we catch one eating a fetus.


*in a country twang* "Ma! Grab the rifle. The kittens are after the fetuses again."

#59 Feb 23 2010 at 9:34 AM Rating: Default
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Kittens.


Are you sure? I can feed a 8ft boa a mouse and no one gives a sh*t. However, if I feed the same boa a tiny fluffy kitty i'd be locked up and the key would be thrown away.
#60 Feb 23 2010 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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So feed it aborted feti. They're uniquely unlovable.

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However, if I feed the same boa a tiny fluffy kitty i'd be locked up and the key would be thrown away.

Because we all agree on kittens! Duh, try and keep up Smiley: oyvey
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#62 Feb 23 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
Joph,

Why do you hate snakes?

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publiusvarus wrote:
Joph,

Why do you hate snakes?

Because they're lower on the food chain, but sometimes forget it.
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#64 Feb 23 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I read a nice article on American Replicans and thought it relevant

As a Brit, I am asking you here. Are the Republicans in the US becomming the new KKK and out of touch with the general populace?

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Perhaps the most telling symbol of the dramatic shift of the Republican party on this question is what happened during the Briggs initiative in California as long ago as 1978. The initiative proposed banning all gay people from being teachers in state schools. It is memorialised in the recent film on Harvey Milk, the gay rights pioneer. Reagan, a former California governor, was about to launch his presidential campaign and needed every evangelical vote he could get. Nonetheless, he opposed the initiative, writing a formal letter explaining why, and a week before the vote wrote an article against it: “Whatever else it is, homosexuality is not a contagious disease like the measles. Prevailing scientific opinion is that an individual’s sexuality is determined at a very early age and that a child’s teachers do not really influence this.” Reagan’s intervention helped shift what was predicted as a landslide victory for the initiative to a landslide defeat. Last month, a poll of more than 2,000 self-identified Republicans asked: “Should openly gay men and women be allowed to teach in [state] schools?” Eight per cent said yes, and 73% said no. Sixty-eight per cent said gay couples should be barred from receiving any state or federal benefits. And this month, Bob McDonnell, the newly elected governor of Virginia, as one of his first acts in office, rescinded a non-discrimination clause protecting government employees from being fired because they are gay.

In all of this, of course, the Republican leadership — and the Christian base of the party — is moving in the opposite direction to the country as a whole. Depending on how you phrase the question, 60-70% now favour allowing gays to serve openly in the military (up from about 40% in 1993); two-thirds favour giving gay couples the same rights and responsibilities as heterosexual couples (up from 40% in 1993); 47% now favour full civil marriage rights (up from 37% in 1993). And in the under-30 generation, 65% favour full marriage equality. In contrast, among all Republicans in a recent Washington Post poll, 69% opposed it.


#65 Feb 23 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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And this is the problem. If we can't agree that life begins at conception, and hold all parties accountable for their own acts, what can we agree on?


I'd say that we can agree that preventing pregnancy in the first place should be our biggest priority, amirite? And thus, we should have comprehensive sex education from the time we're little kids (I got mine through the Girl Scouts, not school), fund clinics that provide contraceptives for both men and women at low costs, and do our best to ensure that abortions are only used when the health of the mother is endangered (such as ectopic pregnancies which will kill a woman before the 8th week if left untreated.)

Safe, legal, and above all, rare.

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As a Brit, I am asking you here. Are the Republicans in the US becomming the new KKK and out of touch with the general populace?


There are sane Republicans. But the insane ones are driving them out of the party and into Independent-ness.

I don't think it's so much that the Republicans are the new KKK. Hell, some of the most vicious senior members of the GOP are the OLD KKK these days. But I do think that they're finding themselves in the uncomfortable position of becoming a shrinking minority, and they just don't know how to handle it. So they're lashing out at everyone that disagrees with them.

What I want to know is . . . if they hate the government so much, and think it should be dissolved, why do they accept paid positions within it?

Edited, Feb 23rd 2010 11:28am by catwho
#66 Feb 23 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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catwho wrote:
What I want to know is . . . if they hate the government so much, and think it should be dissolved, why do they accept paid positions within it?


History shows us that it is easier to change/destroy from within than incur a revolution. Even better if you are being paid to do it and can invoke some nice cronyism.

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catwho wrote:
There are sane Republicans. But the insane ones are driving them out of the party and into Independent-ness.
Ecellent. You're closer to a 3 party system than you think.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2010 12:47pm by Uglysasquatch
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#68 Feb 23 2010 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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In the 80s, Reagan et al. made a deal with the devil - that is to say, the evangelicals in the Midwest and in the South - thus pushing the party toward social, as opposed to fiscal, conservatism. With Reagan at the helm (for the most part), things were kept under some measure of control. With him out of the picture, however, things started to spiral farther toward the right and farther away from any semblance of fiscal conservatism.

I have some sympathy for the bewildered and beleaguered fiscal conservatives / social laissez-faire set. They got used and screwed.

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catwho wrote:
What I want to know is . . . if they hate the government so much, and think it should be dissolved, why do they accept paid positions within it?


It's my understanding that it is a dislike for a large federal government that is at the core of Republican ideals, not government itself. They'd like to see the majority of the power held by the state government. At least, that is what it used to be. With agendas such as a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, I'm lost as to where their priorities lie.
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Master Dozer wrote:
catwho wrote:
What I want to know is . . . if they hate the government so much, and think it should be dissolved, why do they accept paid positions within it?


It's my understanding that it is a dislike for a large federal government that is at the core of Republican ideals, not government itself. They'd like to see the majority of the power held by the state government. At least, that is what it used to be. With agendas such as a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, I'm lost as to where their priorities lie.
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publiusvarus wrote:
Why do you hate snakes?

God, it's as though you never even read Genesis Smiley: oyvey
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#73 Feb 23 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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#74 Feb 23 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Ecellent. You're closer to a 3 party system than you think.

Are you kidding? Independents are distancing themselves from Obama and the Democrats even to the point of the GOP gaining Mass. and you think the independents are going to the Dems?

I don't think you quite understand the concept of 3.
#75 Feb 23 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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even to the point of the GOP gaining Mass


After yesterday's vote on the jobs bill I though the Rs didn't want Scott Brown any more. After all, he's a traitor to the cause.

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The simple fact is most people in this country are conservative christians. They have far more in common with the GOP than they ever will with the liberal democrats.


Most of them are self-identified Christians, but that doesn't mean they're conservative. The rank and file American only goes to church because it's what you're supposed to do.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2010 5:38pm by catwho
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I can feed a 8ft boa a mouse and no one gives a sh*t.

You're WAY underfeeding. an 8 foot Boa should be eating jumbo rats, probably on a bi-weekly basis.
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