Disabled Children are God's punishmentFollow

So that we all understand. A minor politician made a ignorant remark so we should ignore the fact that tax payer dollars are being used to finance an organization that ends countless innocent lives every year. Was that your point Cat?

Well, all except the part about innocent lives.

Well. Actually the guy who wrote the article said that, not the guy quoted in the article itself. I know that it's easy to miss little details like that when you're wearing liberal tinted blinders.

What he actually did was make a statement about a medically acknowledged consequence of abortion (increased rate of complications leading to handicaps in future births) and attributed it to "nature". He then added (because he happens to believe in God and is standing with a group of others who do as well) that perhaps God doesn't like when children (specifically first born children) are aborted.

Now. I suppose you could choose to focus entirely on the fact that he mentioned God in his statement and ignore that he is correct about the consequence of abortion itself, and even ignore the larger ethical position he's taking, but that would just be silly, wouldn't it? It would mean that you are using a somewhat irrational means to judge someone's statement. Does it really make a damn bit of difference why this guy believes those consequences to abortion exist? Or is it more important that they do?

A rational thinker would conclude the latter.




Yes. It's just a joke, so we should ignore it, right? But if we really ignored jokes like this, the Left wouldn't have a political platform. You get that the left makes their entire political message out of jokes like this, right? And the do it specifically so that when someone calls them on it, they can just say "It's just a joke! Really...". Um. No. It's not. Really...



The one where you accepted a complete A->B == B->A relationship without question and then defended it as "just a joke", but immediately applied the same logic when making another "joke". So. It's ok to insist on using logic as a joke when it helps you bash Conservatives, and it's ok to ignore illogic if it's used as a joke to bash Conservatives...

Gee! I'm sensing a pattern here. ;)

Sigh...




Really? The quoted study isn't even recent (1983). What's surprising to me is that anyone isn't aware of this. It's been common knowledge for quite some time, and honestly should be (dare I say it?) "obvious". Almost all abortion procedures carry with them a risk of damage to either cervix or uterine wall or both. You don't even need a medical degree to understand that this will increase the risk of complications in future pregnancies...

If the study is as old as I am (and it is) then chances are it's been disproven. Are there any recent studies that proved this? Also, I love how you link a prolife site to "prove" that abortion causes those particular issues later on.

I also like how the site you linked to sites a study in Finland that shows that more women died after having an abortion within a year, than women who gave birth within a year, is proof that abortion is more deadly than child birth. Correlation does not equal causation. The study doesn't say what the women actually died of, just that they died.

Edit: I read further down and it actually does say what the women died of, sort of. They narrowed it down to suicide, accidents, homicide, and natural causes. In each category, according to this study of a whole whopping 281 women, women who had had an abortion within a year were twice as likely or more, to die than a woman who had had a miscarriage, or a full term pregnancy, or no pregnancy. It still just sounds like scare tactics to me. They're trying to argue that abortion is more deadly than child birth, bu they don't talk about any women who die of the actual abortion.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2010 7:10pm by PigtailsOfDoom

They also apparently get murdered more often too! Don't get an abortion, or someone will kill you!

A rare double.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2010 9:18pm by Allegory

That one may actually be true, here if not in Finland.

Well the word I use does start with an A and ends with an E

Edited, Feb 22nd 2010 11:43pm by ThiefX

"Awesometastique!"


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOMGOMGOMG!!! It took you TWO tries to say that!!!! TWO!!! TWO TRIES!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!