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#1 Feb 16 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Sub-Default

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) â€“ U.S. Senator Evan Bayh, a popular Democrat seen as having a good shot at a third term, said Monday he won't run again because of the kind of bitter politicking that has put President Barack Obama's whole agenda in jeopardy.

Bayh of Indiana said that "narrow ideology" was ruling lawmakers' decisions, thwarting useful work at a time when a bipartisan approach was urgently needed, and sapping his desire to remain in Congress.

So the Democrats had supermajorities in the house and senate last year but somehow now Bayh labels the current political climate as to "bipartisan". What a f*cking joke. Democrats are scared sh*tless over the November elections and many of them are just cutting out to save face. All I can say is I hope the GOP doesn't give in an inch and obstructs every bit of Obama's communist agenda.

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#2 Feb 16 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Excellent

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So the Democrats had supermajorities in the house and senate last year but somehow now Bayh labels the current political climate as to "bipartisan".

Are you illiterate? He was citing the lack of bipartisanship as his primary reason for leaving. The guy is one of the two most conservative Democrats in the Senate.

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What a f*cking joke.

I'll say.

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Democrats are scared sh*tless over the November elections and many of them are just cutting out to save face.

Some probably are. Bayh likely wasn't one of them. He was polling 20 points ahead, had a $13mil war chest and his opponent would have been a banking & health industry lobbyist.

It's funny, there actually is a core in here to gloat over (Bayh leaving turns a safe state into a toss-up or probably a GOP lean) but you still manage to fuck it up Smiley: laugh

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#3 Feb 16 2010 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good

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I thought this was a goodbye thread :(

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#4 REDACTED, Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 8:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,

#5 Feb 16 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good

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He also used the talk of bipartisanship as an excuse for why Obama's agenda wasn't getting accomplished.

Are you even typing in English? He was saying there were too many Republicans willing to listen to Democratic ideas (and vice versa) to get things passed? Smiley: dubious

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And last I heard the Dems had a supermajority.

Buy a newspaper.

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Sorry the Democrats had the house and senate supermajorities last year. They didn't need any GOP votes to get anything passed. Democrats were NOT willing to listen to GOP ideas.

Hint: He was asking a question, not making a statement.

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publiusvarus wrote:

Joph,

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He was saying there were too many Republicans willing to listen to Democratic ideas (and vice versa) to get things passed?

You really enjoy making sh*t up.

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Bayh of Indiana said that "narrow ideology" was ruling lawmakers' decisions, thwarting useful work at a time when a bipartisan approach was urgently needed, and sapping his desire to remain in Congress.

Sorry the Democrats had the house and senate supermajorities last year. They didn't need any GOP votes to get anything passed. Democrats were NOT willing to listen to GOP ideas.

This is all a set up; just like Obama addressing the GOP. Now that the Democrats are forced to recognize the GOP they have to "appear" bipartisan. Especially considering it's an election year.

Varus... you're making no sense. Bayh is saying that the lack of bipartisanship sapped his desire to stay in Congress. Republicans wouldn't budge; Democrats didn't need them to. It was both sides, and he was sick of it. It's not hard to understand what he's saying; he's saying that neither side wants to work with each other, he's had enough, and he's out.

Also, lulz at "Obama addressing the GOP being a set-up." Yeah, glad to see all the best and brightest of the Republican party inviting the president by himself to an on-air debate/forum was a set-up. That makes no sense whatsoever.

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Bayh of Indiana said that "narrow ideology" was ruling lawmakers' decisions, thwarting useful work at a time when a bipartisan approach was urgently needed, and sapping his desire to remain in Congress.

Varus previously wrote:

somehow now Bayh labels the current political climate as to "bipartisan"

If he's saying bipartianship is "urgently needed" and that the lack thereof is sapping his desire to stick around then it's a good bet he's not saying the current climate is bipartisan, Dippy. Smiley: laugh

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Locked,

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he's saying that neither side wants to work with each other, he's had enough, and he's out.

Actually what he's saying is the Democrats no longer hold the supermajority so they need GOP support which he doesn't think they will get so he's out.

See the difference?

Yeah... he's saying what I said, and not what you say.

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This just in: Varus can't read. Guess you don't need more than a third grade education to sell insurance.

#13 Feb 16 2010 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good

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Sign here. Initial here.

Yea, I think that pretty much covers it.

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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

Sign here. Initial here.

Yea, I think that pretty much covers it.

You forgot the part where you bend over and let them sodomize you with a rolled up copy of your useless insurance plan.

#15 Feb 16 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good

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He's only saying bipartisanship is needed now because the GOP can block the Dems. Show me where he said anything like that last year.

Don't really care to, to be honest. Bayh's always been one of the most conservative Democrats. Believe it, don't believe it... what do I care?

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Why should the GOP cooperate?

Eh, then don't. Eventually someone will figure it out or else legislation will grind to a halt. I can't be bothered to debate it.

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GOP pollster Neil Newhouse saw Bayhâ€™s decision through the prism of the GOPâ€™s startling capture of the Senate seat in deep-blue Massachusetts. â€œDonâ€™t kid yourself. Scott Brown claims another victim. Itâ€™s mostly Democrats seeing the handwriting on the wall.â€

Fixed that one for ya. No charge.

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So called blue dog dems are scared sh*tless

There are no Blue Dogs in the Senate.

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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

Sign here. Initial here.

Yea, I think that pretty much covers it.

Don't forget your smarmy grin. That's a major portion of what you learn in insurance school.

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#20 Feb 16 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good

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publiusvarus wrote:

This just in liberals would much rather attack me than blah blah blah...

Except the conclusions you're drawing are completely FALSE due to your inability to read a news article.

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#21 Feb 16 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent

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bsphil wrote:

publiusvarus wrote:

This just in liberals would much rather attack me than blah blah blah...

Except the conclusions you're drawing are completely FALSE due to your inability to read a news article.

I just assumed that when he said 'to "bipartisan"', in his very first post, he actually meant to write 'too "partisan"'. From there, it kinda makes sense...

I get where Bayh is coming from. And yes, he is one of the more conservative Democrats in the Senate. I do find it interesting how the spin on his statements about too little cooperation between the Parties is almost universally assumed to be a condemnation of Republican Obstructionism, when he's almost certainly just as annoyed with his own Party's antics.

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#22 Feb 16 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent

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I do find it interesting how the spin on his statements about too little cooperation between the Parties is almost universally assumed to be a condemnation of Republican Obstructionism, when he's almost certainly just as annoyed with his own Party's antics.

I didn't read it as GOP only. His statement about the jobs bill was an obvious jab at Reid.

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This just in liberals would much rather attack me than deal with the reality that Democrats in congress are in big trouble.

I wrote:

It's funny, there actually is a core in here to gloat over (Bayh leaving turns a safe state into a toss-up or probably a GOP lean) but you still manage to fuck it up.

Edited, Feb 16th 2010 12:15pm by Jophiel

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#23 Feb 16 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent

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I thought this was a goodbye thread :(

I thought that also. I was going to say my goodbye to Varus, but alas, I was disappointed to find it was just another one of his mindless, paranoid rants.

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Except the conclusions you're drawing are completely FALSE due to your inability to read a news article.

I would have to concur with Bsphil on this one Varus. In fact your constant misinterpretation and constant 'yellow journalism' enforces my opinion that people like you Varus should not be allowed to vote. Not because your conservative (I don't care if you want Batman as president) but because all you know how to do is complain and whine every time laws are passed that you don't agree with.

Man now I'm sad that Varus is going to stick around. :(

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gbaji wrote:

I do find it interesting how the spin on his statements about too little cooperation between the Parties is almost universally assumed to be a condemnation of Republican Obstructionism, when he's almost certainly just as annoyed with his own Party's antics.

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Bayh is saying that the lack of bipartisanship sapped his desire to stay in Congress. Republicans wouldn't budge; Democrats didn't need them to. It was both sides, and he was sick of it.

Yeah... ok champ. We're totally only spinning it to Republican obstructionism...

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LockeColeMA wrote:

Yeah... ok champ. We're totally only spinning it to Republican obstructionism...

Maybe he's only paying attention to Varrus here.

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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

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Yeah... ok champ. We're totally only spinning it to Republican obstructionism...

Maybe he's only paying attention to Varrus here.

And even then changing his words as written so they make more sense. THEN siding with him.

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