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#1 Feb 11 2010 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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Obama is killing too many terrorists!
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Marc Thiessen, former President Bush's speechwriter and the author of Courting Disaster, now complains that President Obama is killing too many terrorists.

"Today, the Obama administration is no longer attempting to capture men like these alive; it is simply killing them. This may be satisfying, but it comes at a price. With every drone strike that vaporizes a senior al Qaeda leader, actionable intelligence is vaporized along with him. Dead terrorists can't tell you their plans to strike America."


You can read the article in question here. He seems to make a pretty filmsy case, especially since he never touches upon changes in the Pakistani government and in Pakistani/US relations which impact sending US agents to capture people.

Also, while looking something up related to this post, I saw mention that the list of people the author cites as captured were largely captured in cities where we wouldn't be using drones anyway, not captured by soldiers in remote mountain hide-aways (like the ones we do hit with drones).

But I did find the idea that some Bushie is criticizing Obama for killing too many terrorists pretty amusing.
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#2 Feb 11 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dead terrorists can't tell you their plans to strike America.


They also can't plan to strike America anymore.
#3 Feb 11 2010 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Dead terrorists can't tell you their plans to strike America.


They also can't plan to strike America anymore.

The best way to defeat terrorism would be to just let them all suicide bomb themselves. It's like ripping a bandaid off quickly.
#4 Feb 11 2010 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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But I did find the idea that some Bushie is criticizing Obama for killing too many terrorists pretty amusing.

That's ok, most conservatives found the idea that liberals were criticizing Bush for killing too many terrorists amusing, too.
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
That's ok, most conservatives found the idea that liberals were criticizing Bush for killing too many terrorists amusing, too.

See? That only makes this MORE amusing! Smiley: smile
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#6 Feb 11 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
I agree with you. Besides, you know I think they should have a fleet of predators in the air at all times looking for targets to blow up.
#7 Feb 11 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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I agree with you. Besides, you know I think they should have a fleet of predators in the air at all times looking for targets to blow up.
What's the point in have things like that if you can't play with them?
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#8 Feb 11 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Excellent
I'd volunteer to go in to the training program that let me play airplane based fps video games all day long. It's not even far off: get shot down, respawn at the rally point with a new drone.
#9 Feb 11 2010 at 2:14 PM Rating: Excellent
As a matter of fact, we should start a petition that would get a million of the suckers built and offer a desktop app so that people at work could ***** off by bombing Afghan Mountain ranges in between a little work and a little forum posting.
#10 Feb 11 2010 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The real issue is that there's no one left to waterboard and the Terrorist Coercion industry will be getting a big bailout check, compounding the national debt crisis.
#11 Feb 11 2010 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?
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Debalic wrote:
I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?

Fill it...


...with killer BEES!!!



You know, to bee-torture the terrorists
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#13 Feb 11 2010 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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Dead terrorists can't exercise their rights.
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#15 Feb 11 2010 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?

Fill it...


...with killer BEES!!!



You know, to bee-torture the terrorists
If we can be specific about the bee, I'd like to use the Japanese hornet. It's like everything else from Japan: ******* frightening.
#16 Feb 11 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Dead terrorists can't exercise their rights.


And live terrorists hire Democrats to do it for them.

No, apparently they hire Bush's speechwriter to complain that there aren't enough of them around anymore.

-5 points to the man in the tacky outfit who apparently had his face lifted and then dropped from a very large height.
#17 Feb 11 2010 at 11:35 PM Rating: Good
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Better dead than read their Miranda rights, I suppose.

It feels dirty to quasi-agree with Varus.
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#18 Feb 11 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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If they were smart, they would be making big showy explosions in one place, and rebuilding the clinton-gutted deap cover operative network somwhere else while they are distracted. We don't have people inside with nearly enough penetration. That takes years. Generations even, and it all got pissed away. Bush Jr. never really had the Intel savvy his dad did unfortunatly, and all the infighting and budget reallocation the onset of homeland security brought really didn't help matters. It will likely be three or four presidents down before we start getting better Intel out of these areas, unless Israel decides to give us more of their main take, but even there, they have really only been focused close to home. Iraq and Afghanistan aren't a threat to them militarily so they don't keep as close an eye on it. I'd suspect their Iran intel is better than ours though.
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Sweetums wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?

Fill it...


...with killer BEES!!!



You know, to bee-torture the terrorists
If we can be specific about the bee, I'd like to use the Japanese hornet. It's like everything else from Japan: @#%^ing frightening.


The only flaw in your plan is that in order to fill Gitmo with those ******* hornets, we'd have to bring them even closer to the US than they already are. What happens ifwhen they kill their guards and escape?
#21 Feb 12 2010 at 4:58 AM Rating: Good
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As a matter of fact, we should start a petition that would get a million of the suckers built and offer a desktop app so that people at work could ***** off by bombing Afghan Mountain ranges in between a little work and a little forum posting.


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#22 Feb 12 2010 at 6:11 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?

Fill it...


...with killer BEES!!!



You know, to bee-torture the terrorists
If we can be specific about the bee, I'd like to use the Japanese hornet. It's like everything else from Japan: @#%^ing frightening.


The only flaw in your plan is that in order to fill Gitmo with those ******* hornets, we'd have to bring them even closer to the US than they already are. What happens ifwhen they kill their guards and escape?
You're right. We should put them on an island with genetically engineered dinosaurs instead. That's way safer.
#23 Feb 12 2010 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I'm guessing this douchenozzle is also against closing Gitmo and wants to fill it back up again?

Fill it...


...with killer BEES!!!



You know, to bee-torture the terrorists
If we can be specific about the bee, I'd like to use the Japanese hornet. It's like everything else from Japan: @#%^ing frightening.


The only flaw in your plan is that in order to fill Gitmo with those ******* hornets, we'd have to bring them even closer to the US than they already are. What happens ifwhen they kill their guards and escape?
You're right. We should put them on an island with genetically engineered dinosaurs instead. That's way safer.
Then we have to deal with the dinosaurs that, when they roar, they shoot hornets at us.

Include me out.
#24 Feb 12 2010 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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Then we have to deal with the dinosaurs that, when they roar, they shoot hornets at us.
You obviously need to run for office.
#25 Feb 16 2010 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
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They were saying?

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#26 Feb 16 2010 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release such sensitive information.

Do I lose Liberal Credit Points if I admit that that sort of thing kind of bothers me? I can see talking if the military is covering up bombing a kitten factory or whatever but, if it's "Hey, we caught this guy and we're not ready for the world to know it yet" then shut the fuck up about it.


Yes, I realize that this could have been an intentional "leak" but I'm also speaking more generally

Edited, Feb 16th 2010 8:11am by Jophiel
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