80% of CHD drugs are administered to people whose high blood pressure is due to obesity/poor diet/low exercise. Google it. Simple (yet uncomfortable) truth.
As a Doctor, would you
a) spend ages trying to help someone change their lifestyle when they're addicted to junk food and allergic to exercise, or
b) persuade them to buy drugs from the pharmaceutical companies who pay for your "educational" seminars in Vegas, London, Paris and Honolulu?
Mehh. It's late. My point was made several posts ago. I will never decry the application of surgery or medicine where it's needed. Just chizzed off that they are often applied un-necessarily.
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Smasharoo wrote:
From my experience, while doctors take a disproportionate amount of the blame, usually it is the schools who are pushing for medication, necessarily or not, b/c they don't have the resources to manage these kids. Doctors can't bill for anything other than perfunctory visits
They're not "evil" here, most of the time. Just lazy. It takes a lot more effort to say "no" to WebMD "educated" patients convinced something will fix their kid.
I've had so many doctors and nurse practioners justify to me why they had this type of diagnosis and that kind of treatment and alot of times, it is evident that they don't even recall the patient b/c their caseloads are so high. Now, much of my experiences has been in child psychiatry and Massachusetts is notoriously underserved in that capacity. It was really sad when one of the better ones, at Harvard Vanguard, suddenly died a few years ago. And one death of a child psychiatrist has a major impact, indicating how few are actually available, despite how many psychiatrists and medical personnel that there are in Massachusetts in general.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Smasharoo wrote:
A big part of the problem here is that most doctors are horrified of the prospect of suggesting alternative medicine / home remedies because of all the malpractice lawsuits.
Yeah, that, and the tiny fact that "alternative" medicine is about 99.999999999999999999999% useless quackery.
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There are many, many, many, drugs on the market, PARTICULARLY those intended to treat "mental illness" that show no evidence of outperforming placebo.
... so are a lot of prescription drugs. Whatever makes a person feel better, right?
... so are a lot of prescription drugs. Whatever makes a person feel better, right?
Sure. The primary difference here is that prescription drugs are at least regulated in some fashion, be it an imperfect and manifestly corrupt one, and are, on balance far less likely to actually cause harm than many "alternative" methods.
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Annabella of Future Fabulous! wrote:
I've had so many doctors and nurse practioners justify to me why they had this type of diagnosis and that kind of treatment and alot of times, it is evident that they don't even recall the patient b/c their caseloads are so high. Now, much of my experiences has been in child psychiatry and Massachusetts is notoriously underserved in that capacity. It was really sad when one of the better ones, at Harvard Vanguard, suddenly died a few years ago. And one death of a child psychiatrist has a major impact, indicating how few are actually available, despite how many psychiatrists and medical personnel that there are in Massachusetts in general.
Will somebody who understood what the fUck Anna is saying please translate into English?
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Will somebody who understood what the **** Anna is saying please translate into English?
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Will somebody who understood what the @#%^ Anna is saying please translate into English?
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
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Nobby wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Will somebody who understood what the @#%^ Anna is saying please translate into English?
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
Clinicians are overworked. Clinicians relying on State funds are overworked to the point of forgetting diagnoses. The "Massachusetts is known for a lack of kid psyDs" stuff, I'd chalk up to bitterness working in the system. Someone clearly needs to spend a few months in Idaho or Mississippi.
Ugh, go fuck yourself.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Nobby wrote:
I said you should do something about the cause of your high blood pressure.
This was shortly before you broke up, I presume?
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Nobby wrote:
I said you should do something about the cause of your high blood pressure.
This was shortly before you broke up, I presume?
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When did I say it doesn't work, idiot? Self-harm works, but it has some awkward implications.
Really? Show more ignorance, please. It's astounding how retarded your denile can be.
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You, on the other hand, are just annoying and pointless. You may be an intellectual giants (my radar says not) or an imbecile (you can type so I'll be generous) but your whining, victim-mode drivel hints to me that you've bought the pharmacists' Golden Wonka Bar and should munch away to your ickle heart's delight.
Like I've said, you don't know sh*t about me. Continue to make false assumptions. Go ahead, it really helps your argument when you conclude things about me that are false.
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Doctors are above all that, right?
They're not. And just like the mechanic problem, you should know what you're getting into beforehand so you don't get suckered like an idiot.
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There's probably tons of stuff wrong with me. But I never go to the doctor so I'll never know. And I like it that way.
OK so. . .
a) you're medically qualified to discern between evidence-based practice and expedkiancy
b) you ca'nt spel
d) You're the 1% that proves the 99% rule
You go ahead and enjoy the medicalisation of your life. I'll take the rational view and wiggle the pins in your wax effigy.
a) you're medically qualified to discern between evidence-based practice and expedkiancy
b) you ca'nt spel
d) You're the 1% that proves the 99% rule
You go ahead and enjoy the medicalisation of your life. I'll take the rational view and wiggle the pins in your wax effigy.
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
There's probably tons of stuff wrong with me. But I never go to the doctor so I'll never know. And I like it that way.
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When did I say it doesn't work, idiot? Self-harm works, but it has some awkward implications.
Really? Show more ignorance, please. It's astounding how retarded your denile can be.
It does, though. For a given value of "works". It provides some fleeting relief, but (as indicated) causes problems itself. The analogy to overprescription of meds is valid.
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Samira wrote:
It does, though. For a given value of "works". It provides some fleeting relief, but (as indicated) causes problems itself. The analogy to overprescription of meds is valid.
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Nobby wrote:
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
There's probably tons of stuff wrong with me. But I never go to the doctor so I'll never know. And I like it that way.
I know.
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Nobby wrote:
Samira wrote:
It does, though. For a given value of "works". It provides some fleeting relief, but (as indicated) causes problems itself. The analogy to overprescription of meds is valid.
I don't take them. I prefer my patented brand of crazy.
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Samira wrote:
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When did I say it doesn't work, idiot? Self-harm works, but it has some awkward implications.
Really? Show more ignorance, please. It's astounding how retarded your denile can be.
It does, though. For a given value of "works". It provides some fleeting relief, but (as indicated) causes problems itself. The analogy to overprescription of meds is valid.
That's because people who shouldn't be taking the meds are taking the meds.
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Deadgye wrote:
Samira wrote:
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When did I say it doesn't work, idiot? Self-harm works, but it has some awkward implications.
Really? Show more ignorance, please. It's astounding how retarded your denile can be.
It does, though. For a given value of "works". It provides some fleeting relief, but (as indicated) causes problems itself. The analogy to overprescription of meds is valid.
That's because people who shouldn't be taking the meds are taking the meds.
(As in, people who don't have ADHD taking ritalin or adderall.)Are you high or just naturally retarded?
I'd lean toward him being both.
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Are you high or just naturally retarded?
Neither, you just apparently fail at reading comprehension. Nowhere have I said that people who don't have the disorder aren't being misdiagnosed. I've only stated that the people who do suffer from the disorder do not need to think of medication as a last resort, or that it should never be used. If you actually read my posts, you'll notice that I've agreed that people are being misdiagnosed because they're idiots who are suckered, just like the car mechanic example given earlier.
Edited, Feb 10th 2010 8:55pm by Deadgye
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Deadgye wrote:
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Are you high or just naturally retarded?
Neither, you just apparently fail at reading comprehension. Nowhere have I said that people who don't have the disorder aren't being misdiagnosed. I've only stated that the people who do suffer from the disorder do not need to think of medication as a last resort, or that it should never be used. If you actually read my posts, you'll notice that I've agreed that people are being misdiagnosed because they're idiots who are suckered, just like the car mechanic example given earlier.
Edited, Feb 10th 2010 8:55pm by Deadgye
No, that isn't and never will be the case.
Naturally retarded it is.
Edited, Feb 11th 2010 2:04am by Kavekk
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No, that isn't and never will be the case.
So people aren't being misdiagnosed? Got it.
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Deadgye wrote:
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No, that isn't and never will be the case.
So people aren't being misdiagnosed? Got it.
No, I was referring to what you said about my reading comprehension.
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