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Because if I was four and my father waterboarded me, I'd make damned sure I learned my ABCs.
His two year old better learn to say Daddy quick, or car batteries are going to be brought in.
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Story says.
I'm sure he thunked it up all on his own.
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I'm sure he thunked it up all on his own.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Oh, whatever. Everyone knows that waterboarding isn't torture. 
It's just a little water. Surely a four year old could handle it, right?
Right, Varrus?
Right, gbaji?
Kao?
Anyone?
It's just a little water. Surely a four year old could handle it, right? Right, Varrus?
Right, gbaji?
Kao?
Anyone?
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Oh, whatever. Everyone knows that waterboarding isn't torture. It's just a little water. Surely a four year old could handle it, right?
You're like a poster child for Rahm Emanuel, right?
paulsol wrote:
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I'm sure he thunked it up all on his own.
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And it's 64 percent for option 1 at the moment.
That said from the article:
'Police found the little girl locked in a bathroom with bruises on her back and scratch marks on her neck and throat.
Asked how she got the bruises, the girl is said to have replied, "Daddy did it."'
so I guess the waterboarding is why this is news, but bad, bad things would happen either way.
Also, although apparently there is some debate in this forum the article says: "allegedly admitted to police he used the torture technique" in reference to waterboarding. So even in America, in everyday usage, waterboarding==torture.
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Also, although apparently there is some debate in this forum the article says: "allegedly admitted to police he used the torture technique" in reference to waterboarding. So even in America, in everyday usage, waterboarding==torture.
Some New York writer says it's a torture method and that makes it =torture in America?
Some might call that a reach.
yossarian wrote:
So even in America, in everyday usage, waterboarding==torture.
Of course its torture.
Anyone who continues to pretend its not is fooling themselves. Because, I would assume, to actually admit to themselves that it is torture, would be to open a whole can of worms related to their percieved sense of what is 'right' and 'wrong' between 'them' and 'us'.
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Hey, I think we should torture more, not less, but waterboarding is no more torture than sleep deprivation or playing loud music for long periods of time.
I mean, no one like Def Leppard that much, but it never killed anyone.
I mean, no one like Def Leppard that much, but it never killed anyone.
MoebiusLord the Irrelevant wrote:
Hey, I think we should torture more, not less, but waterboarding is no more torture than sleep deprivation or playing loud music for long periods of time.
I don't plan on arguing with you on this issue, but I am curious what techniques you would consider torture and the criteria needed to be met for an act to be considered torture.
Sex with you is probably pretty painful, so we can start there...
"Your wife doesn't seem to think so" is the response I believe you are fishing for.
edit: I do want to apologize for having said that, at the time I merely wanted to mimic your response style. I should have pursued a different direction.
Edited, Feb 8th 2010 3:53pm by Allegory
edit: I do want to apologize for having said that, at the time I merely wanted to mimic your response style. I should have pursued a different direction.
Edited, Feb 8th 2010 3:53pm by Allegory
If you can't laugh with me when I'm swinging at a meaty pitch, why play? Your response was appropriate.
I once pushed a friend too far with such a comment, so I'm wary about that kind of thing. And it is rather a douche move to poke at someone's family.
Webster's defines it as "an interrogation technique in which water is forced into a detainee's mouth and nose so as to induce the sensation of drowning. " OED calls it an "interrogation technique which simulates drowning." Torture is defined as "the infliction of intense pain to punish,coerce or afford sadistic pleasure. "
Not terribly far. Certainly the word could be used in referral to what happened to this child, although people have their hangups about using it because of what it means for us as a nation.
Not terribly far. Certainly the word could be used in referral to what happened to this child, although people have their hangups about using it because of what it means for us as a nation.
All I can say is consider the audience. Many of us lived through the family that Noddy inflicted on us, so it's not like it's off limits, or anything.
4 years old and can't recite the alphabet? Really? He should have stabbed her in the face.
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Smasharoo wrote:
4 years old and can't recite the alphabet? Really? He should have stabbed her in the face.
Kaolian managed to get Dracoid cited in the latest redraft of the Geneva Conventions.
Is it too much to ask for the addition of waterboarding, gbaji, Ben Stiller movies and any noise emanating from Lady Gaga?
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Nobby wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
4 years old and can't recite the alphabet? Really? He should have stabbed her in the face.
Kaolian managed to get Dracoid cited in the latest redraft of the Geneva Conventions.
Is it too much to ask for the addition of waterboarding, gbaji, Ben Stiller movies and any noise emanating from Lady Gaga?
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Just the noise?
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
publiusvarus wrote:
Flea,
I'm wondering when the police are going to start arresting children, who hold their siblings head under water a few seconds at the local pool, for torture.
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Webster's defines it as "an interrogation technique in which water is forced into a detainee's mouth and nose so as to induce the sensation of drowning. " OED calls it an "interrogation technique which simulates drowning." Torture is defined as "the infliction of intense pain to punish,coerce or afford sadistic pleasure. "
I'm wondering when the police are going to start arresting children, who hold their siblings head under water a few seconds at the local pool, for torture.
That would not count as waterboarding, as they just hold their breath. Water is not being forced into their nose and mouth. Furthermore, kids hit each other all the time but when adults do the same thing they go to jail. In conclusion, your post is complete nonsense and you should kill yourself.
Just imagine how dangerous Democrat politicians would be with birdshot!
Every pundit celebrity and serious reporter who has denied waterboarding counts as torture, and to prove it, have undergone the experience themselves in controlled conditions has afterwards recanted the idea that waterboarding is NOT torture.
Not the majority of them. Not almost all of them. ALL of them.
One of them acquired PTSD afterwards from that one experience.
Not the majority of them. Not almost all of them. ALL of them.
One of them acquired PTSD afterwards from that one experience.
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