Pentagon repealing DADTFollow

Um...you DO realize that they have been showering together all along, right? If a gay man were going to get a raging ***** at the sight of any other guy in the shower, the game would pretty much be up already.

Moron.

I suspect it's because they're lame ******* who have so little self-control that they pop wood every time they see someone of the sex to whom they are attracted, and they're projecting that tendency upon the rest of male-kind.

It really seems to me that he's just an asshole who wants to pretend that everyone is gawking at the ****** so he can feel better about himself when he does it.

I mean, shit, he won't even let his gay friends (Yes, he has gay friends, so he's not a bigot... right?) talk about their significant others because it makes him feel all icky.

ETA: By the way, you asked if I was "gay, too." Didn't you know that Allakhazam was the "Gay Gaming fourm?" Everyone here is gay. Except Varrus and gbaji.

Jophiel and Atomicflea even met here, they're lesbians who are now living a happy life together. (Flea is the butch one, obviously.)

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 8:54pm by Belkira

Oh no! People are being called gay on the internet!

Gay for Anna, AMIRITE?

Hey, I can indulge my feminine side! Just yesterday I bought ***-scented candles and fucking potpurri and shit.

What, you going somewhere?

People will get over it, and in a military setting were everyone bonding is psychologically forced on people it will happen faster than anywhere else. They got over blacks serving. They got over women serving. They'll get over gays serving.

It's part of the solution. As long as we have laws that support the bigoted view that there is something wrong, unnatural, shameful, or secretive about homosexuality then the fears of the ignorant are reinforced.

I suppose you can't or don't want to see the inevitable outcome of the entire situation. Comprises will occur, but they aren't a stopping point, just a a step toward progress that is begrudgingly accepted until full equality and protection is ultimately achieved.

Full rights and legal acceptance for homosexuals is an unavoidable final outcome. Everything the religious right and other civil rights detractors are doing is a stall. It may not seem obvious to your or them, but that is the situation. Nothing they do can change homosexuals being eventually granted full marriage rights or prevent DADT from being fully repealed. All that they are doing is delaying. They can't stop, but they can slow down. Within 30 year certainly, the largest parts will be over.

You're on the wrong side of history Shadowedge.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2010 4:31am by Allegory

That's why there are rules and policies against sexual harassment in the workplace, and consequences for their violation. It doesn't mean that I, a hetero woman, or you, a hetero male, get to anticipate their violation and act as if it's occurred simply because our equipment fits the bill. If someone is repeatedly making comments/overtures at you that are unwelcome and make it difficult to work, then you have a problem, and those are looked at on a case-by-case basis, just like the hetero harassment claims. Look at who thinks a fucking ***** makes him special. Chauvinist.

They get harassed anyway by ignorant fucks right now. A repeal won't magically confer understanding upon these people. At least then it will come with the requisite policies for pursuing punishment to the extent the law allows. What do they get now? Not only do they get harassed, but they get to lose their job because they were outed. That's fucking strong policy right there. Oh wait, no. It isn't. It sucks balls and if it were you, you'd feel the impotence of you daily and it would drive you insane.

This is convenient. People have listened to your point of view, but you have yet to clarify what the "decency issue" you're advocating actually consists of, other than your personal ooginess. If you do bring your friends by, please make sure they're not in the military or they would have your intolerant *** to thank for the loss of their livelihood.

True. Would you a tie a woman's hands and make it so that she doesn't have a recourse, legal or ethical, through which to defend herself?

Edited, Feb 3rd 2010 6:38am by Atomicflea

While this is likely true, and I am sure most gay people will continue to be somewhat discreet, at least the homophobia will not be institutional. This is a single step in the right direction.

I'm not, it's not like it's some unholy dark ritual (in most cases). And besides, this isn't what this law is about. It's about forcing people to hide their orientation, not whether they can talk about their sexual exploits.

I'm sure they are just as grossed out by your love of ******. Again, this isn't a law preventing people from talking about their sexual exploits.

Personally, I don't think it's wrong to have people showering with people of compatible orientations, but understand that it can be uncomfortable for some. I would prefer a system where that restriction is removed, however if someone wasn't comfortable showering with another, regardless of gender, they could segment those groups. I also understand that some economical and logistical concessions need to be made on this front, but if possible, that should be the goal.

I respectfully disagree, if handled correctly (Yeah, I know, military) it could be done cleanly.

The showering thing is asinine. There's straight and gay dudes showering together in the military right now. If there was actually some terror about what happens when straight guys and gay guys shower together, we should not only be repealing DADT but making sexual orientation disclosure mandatory so we can separate these people. Because it's just like men showering with women and DADT knowingly allows this crime against nature to happen.