ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
You owe me an apology.
She doesn't owe you ****. Take your wet-sop and and go home.
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
What a nice friend you are. "You can hang out with me, but anyone you're dating can't, and I don't want to hear about any of your problems with your significant other. You make me uncomfortable. But let's hang out anyway."
Dude, you're nothing if you're not a homophobe.
There is a distinct difference between locker room talk and discussing personal relationships. I said sexual preferences, not relationship preferences. Sexual meaning sexual acts. You owe me an apology.
I'm sorry you seem to be a ****** friend. That help?
You're right, the military can afford to keep discharging gay translators.
One, yes they can, because 99.9999999% of translation is done by civilian contractors or civilian intelligence operatives. Believe it or not, the one news story you remember because it's easily consumable for you to take in and spit back out as douche bag outrage doesn't extrapolate into what you're upset about actually being a problem. For instance, it's probably not common for US infantry to rape and kill local girls. It's happened, but on balance, probably not a big issue.
Two, go fuck yourself. When you have any fucking clue what you're posting about, give me a ring and I'll consider your opinions.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 5:39pm by Smasharoo
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
publiusvarus wrote:
Tulip,
So are they going to have to make separat barracks and showering facilities for the homos?
Allowing homosexuals to shower with hetero's would be like forcing women to shower with men.
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But, I acutally do agree with you. It's the uncomfortable feeling that's the problem. It's the straight guy that's the problem, in other words.
So are they going to have to make separat barracks and showering facilities for the homos?
Allowing homosexuals to shower with hetero's would be like forcing women to shower with men.
No and no.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
It's uncomfortable for someone, that's the point. If it's uncomfortable for the straight guy, doesn't he have a right to feel that way? On the other hand, a person shouldn't have to hide themselves. So a compromise was made and that was DADT.
Massive problems right there.
1) Discomfort alone is not a good enough reason to discriminate. It's why we don't have black water fountains and special bus seats any more.
2) "On the other hand, a person shouldn't have to hide themselves. So a compromise was made and that was DADT." Do you think about what you're saying at all? They are hiding themselves, that is the entire point of DADT. "You can be gay, but you HAVE to hide it."
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Can anyone seriously tell me they aren't grossed out by hearing about someone's sexual life.
I'm not, probably because I'm an adult or something.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
I have gay friends both male and female. I'm not comfortable talking about the sexual preferences that they have so we talk about other things. I return the favor by not talking about my sexual partners. It makes both sides happy. If someone can explain my point better, please do so.
It doesn't make both sides happy, that is why the homosexuals are upset and want this to be repealed. Stop trying to change reality to fit your narrative, believe me we are going to notice.
This also isn't an equally applied rule. If for some reason you happen to let loose your tongue that you enjoy the company of women, and you are in the military, then you aren't going to lose your job. They are.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:44pm by Allegory
Allegory wrote:
2) "On the other hand, a person shouldn't have to hide themselves. So a compromise was made and that was DADT." Do you think about what you're saying at all? They are hiding themselves, that is the entire point of DADT. "You can be gay, but you HAVE to hide it."
I don't feel that hiding someone's sexual preference is the same as hiding themselves. Regardless of the military's rules, you're not likely to bring a lover to the local clubs/hang outs anyways. I'll back this up by citing a civilian example. You typically don't see many gay couples at your local hang outs, bars, etc... and when you do it's very rare to see gay patrons. If you do see a gay couple there, everyone else is noticing it too so it's not like you miss it.
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It doesn't make both sides happy, that is why the homosexuals are upset and want this to be repealed. Stop trying to change reality to fit your narrative, believe me we are going to notice.
This also isn't an equally applied rule. If for some reason you happen to let loose your tongue that you enjoy the company of women, and you are in the military, then you aren't going to lose your job. They are.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:44pm by Allegory
I see what you mean by the slip of the tongue. I'll admit I haven't considered that. Like I said in my previous posts, we had a known gay soldier in our unit. Most of our females were bi too. The units don't always crack down if there is no problem with the soldier. Gay sexual acts break the rules in other way which does apply to all soldiers. I won't go into details on the forums, but let's say certain kinds of sex in general is against regulations.
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This is a bad idea for the US military right now, and while it'll be a political victory, the end result is going to be dead gay men. Long term I'm sure it'll have almost no impact, but the time to do this ISN'T when you're involved in multiple large scale counter insurgency conflicts.
No matter how much we differ on the subject matter, this guy is right. Now it not the right time to pursue this. Any military member already knows the reason regardless of their personal feelings. I feel bad for everyone involved if DADT gets repealed.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 5:14pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
Smasharoo wrote:
When you have any fucking clue what you're posting about, give me a ring
Ok, but we can't let the military know.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
I'll back this up by citing a civilian example. You typically don't see many gay couples at your local hang outs, bars, etc... and when you do it's very rare to see gay patrons. If you do see a gay couple there, everyone else is noticing it too so it's not like you miss it.
I hope I never go to where you live cause you people clearly suck.
#89REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2010 at 5:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
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Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
Sure.
Smasharoo wrote:
You're right, the military can afford to keep discharging gay translators.
One, yes they can, because 99.9999999% of translation is done by civilian contractors or civilian intelligence operatives. Believe it or not, the one news story you remember because it's easily consumable for you to take in and spit back out as douche bag outrage doesn't extrapolate into what you're upset about actually being a problem. For instance, it's probably not common for US infantry to rape and kill local girls. It's happened, but on balance, probably not a big issue.
Two, go fuck yourself. When you have any fucking clue what you're posting about, give me a ring and I'll consider your opinions.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 5:39pm by Smasharoo
If only the military didn't have to outsource.
Wouldn't that just be swell.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
I hope I never go to where you live cause you people clearly suck.
Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
Oh, obviously that's why he thinks your responses are idiotic. He's a big Lebowski-obsessed fruit.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
I don't feel that hiding someone's sexual preference is the same as hiding themselves. Regardless of the military's rules, you're not likely to bring a lover to the local clubs/hang outs anyways. I'll back this up by citing a civilian example. You typically don't see many gay couples at your local hang outs, bars, etc... and when you do it's very rare to see gay patrons. If you do see a gay couple there, everyone else is noticing it too so it's not like you miss it.
Letters from home from a significant other and pictures of said loved one can't be out in the open. Care packages must be careful not to include an "I love and miss you" message, else the soldier in question gets fired from their career. I imagine that's a very, very difficult thing for a soldier in a war who needs all the support he or she can get.
I also wonder where you're from that you've never seen a gay couple at a bar. I also wonder if you honestly think that soldiers on leave don't hit up the local clubs and hook up with people for a one night stand. A gay soldier is in danger of losing everything if he or she partakes in that, while a heterosexual soldier can brag about it to anyone who will listen.
Samira wrote:
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
I hope I never go to where you live cause you people clearly suck.
Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
Oh, obviously that's why he thinks your responses are idiotic. He's a big Lebowski-obsessed fruit.
Mark it ****-in-my-*** Dude.
Hey, Wedgy, if you spent 10 minutes reading any personal histories from WW II you may notice that there was plenty of pole smoking going on and that the powers that be generaly looked the other way.
Because, y'know, there were other things more important to worry about.
Like winning.
Which we did.
****.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:33pm by Bijou
Because, y'know, there were other things more important to worry about.
Like winning.
Which we did.
****.
Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:33pm by Bijou
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
I hope I never go to where you live cause you people clearly suck.
Ahhhh... so you're a *****. I guess that's why you're such a jerk to me.
Personally, I don't get it. Must be magic.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
#97REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2010 at 5:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh jeez, cry me a river. Are you gay too? It's not hard to be careful with your packages. Heck half the time you had to watch your stuff like a hawk or someone stole it. You're over stating your case by the size of Texas.
So you're saying you have no problem with oral, as long as it isn't against regs?
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Oh jeez, cry me a river. Are you gay too?
Are you under the impression that everyone who disagrees with you about this is gay?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Is it me, or is ShadowWedge trolling for a date here? Perhaps Varus has sent a few love notes via PM already.
Kaelesh, you should change your avatar a bit more, I'm not totally confused yet.
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