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#52 Feb 02 2010 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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Even at a nudist colony, hard-on's tend to happen because the human body operates on a subconscious level. If a person is gay, they can get hard from the male form. I can prove this, but please just trust me on the nudist colony thing. My fiance is a nudist.


So just to recap, you're not a homophobe, you're not gay, and your future wife is so hot that she makes men get instant erections at nudist colonies.
#53 Feb 02 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Google it and find out yourself if you don't believe me.

I think you're vastly missing the point. Everyone believes you, without need of google, that the sight of naked people can make other people horny. The question is "Why does that matter?" How is my erection going to cause the world to explode? ...in bed.
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#54 Feb 02 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
If a person is gay, they can get hard from the male form.
And? You afraid he's going to use it?
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#55 Feb 02 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
If a person is gay, they can get hard from the male form.
And? You afraid he's going to use it?


You might say he has a phobia about it.
#56 Feb 02 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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You claim you can control what you do with your eyes and I believe you for the most part. However, you can go to a club and see 100 different women and only have dirty thoughts about a few. That's my point in a nutshell. I'm not suggesting that a gay male is attracted to every guy in the locker room, but if some guy does catch his eye, you better believe he'll look. No different than he is walking down the street and a cute guy has a nice ***. Even at a nudist colony, hard-on's tend to happen because the human body operates on a subconscious level. If a person is gay, they can get hard from the male form. I can prove this, but please just trust me on the nudist colony thing. My fiance is a nudist. Google it and find out yourself if you don't believe me.


I was in Boy Scouts for 8 years, had Middle and High School, been in the JROTC (where I've showered with women) and sure, I've "checked" it out. It's quite natural to look. But I didn't find myself wanted to stick it in any hole that came along.

And I can get hard with a good thought and a stiff wind, this proves nothing. Except for the fact I am an exceptionally normal person.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 3:54pm by Kaelesh
#57 Feb 02 2010 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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And I can get hard with a good thought and a stiff wind, this proves nothing. Except for the fact I am an exceptionally normal person.


A "stiff" wind, huh? Whatcha trying to say? ;-)


Any guy who hasn't gotten aroused over literally nothing was never a teenager. Or they might have been Allegory. No offense Al.
#58 Feb 02 2010 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Now we're getting somewhere good. You claim you can control what you do with your eyes and I believe you for the most part. However, you can go to a club and see 100 different women and only have dirty thoughts about a few. That's my point in a nutshell. I'm not suggesting that a gay male is attracted to every guy in the locker room, but if some guy does catch his eye, you better believe he'll look. No different than he is walking down the street and a cute guy has a nice ***. Even at a nudist colony, hard-on's tend to happen because the human body operates on a subconscious level. If a person is gay, they can get hard from the male form. I can prove this, but please just trust me on the nudist colony thing. My fiance is a nudist. Google it and find out yourself if you don't believe me.


I've yet to see one statement that showed you were afraid of anything but homosexuality. Since when is a dude getting a ***** a big deal? Because he got a ***** from another dude? You know, it's physiologically possible due to the sexual wiring of your brain that you could get a ***** at the sight of another dude's *****. It's science. Google me if you don't believe it.
#59 Feb 02 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
Allegory wrote:

I think you're vastly missing the point. Everyone believes you, without need of google, that the sight of naked people can make other people horny. The question is "Why does that matter?" How is my erection going to cause the world to explode? ...in bed.


Another poster already answered that, but I'll quote them again.

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But, I acutally do agree with you. It's the uncomfortable feeling that's the problem. It's the straight guy that's the problem, in other words.


It's uncomfortable for someone, that's the point. If it's uncomfortable for the straight guy, doesn't he have a right to feel that way? On the other hand, a person shouldn't have to hide themselves. So a compromise was made and that was DADT. Can anyone seriously tell me they aren't grossed out by hearing about someone's sexual life. Parents tend to be a good example. As I got older, I knew my parents were doing it, but it something that grossed me out because they did it. The homosexual lifestyle is just like that. It's something people don't want to see. They typically don't care if you do it, they just rather not know about it.

I have gay friends both male and female. I'm not comfortable talking about the sexual preferences that they have so we talk about other things. I return the favor by not talking about my sexual partners. It makes both sides happy. If someone can explain my point better, please do so.
#60 Feb 02 2010 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
LockeColeMA wrote:
A "stiff" wind, huh? Whatcha trying to say? ;-)


That if I was a male sheep, I'd wax that ***.
#61 Feb 02 2010 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
It's uncomfortable for someone, that's the point. If it's uncomfortable for the straight guy, doesn't he have a right to feel that way?


Sure, he can be uncomfortable all he wants. It's his problem. Does that mean his comfort should be considered before everyone elses rights? **** no.

Further, just because he's uncomfortable, doesn't mean he gets to harass or belittle that person, regardless of orientation.
#62 Feb 02 2010 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Can anyone seriously tell me they aren't grossed out by hearing about someone's sexual life.


I don't have a problem with it. I don't think the millions of Penthouse (Letters) Forum subscribers do either.
#63 Feb 02 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
It's uncomfortable for someone, that's the point. If it's uncomfortable for the straight guy, doesn't he have a right to feel that way?


Sure, but like Kaelesh said, not at the expense of someone elses rights.

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On the other hand, a person shouldn't have to hide themselves. So a compromise was made and that was DADT. Can anyone seriously tell me they aren't grossed out by hearing about someone's sexual life. Parents tend to be a good example. As I got older, I knew my parents were doing it, but it something that grossed me out because they did it. The homosexual lifestyle is just like that. It's something people don't want to see. They typically don't care if you do it, they just rather not know about it.


So if it was redacted, why would anything change? Why would you suddenly know if someone was gay or not?

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I have gay friends both male and female. I'm not comfortable talking about the sexual preferences that they have so we talk about other things. I return the favor by not talking about my sexual partners. It makes both sides happy. If someone can explain my point better, please do so.


What a nice friend you are. "You can hang out with me, but anyone you're dating can't, and I don't want to hear about any of your problems with your significant other. You make me uncomfortable. But let's hang out anyway."

Dude, you're nothing if you're not a homophobe.
#64 Feb 02 2010 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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shadow's right, we should not allow gay people to serve in the military to help pay for college or jump start their career because Johnny McStraighty feels uncomfortable around gay people. Is it because his ***** is bigger than yours?

**** you, you raging homophobe.
#65 Feb 02 2010 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Dude, you're nothing if you're not a homophobe.


And a prude.
#66 Feb 02 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Any guy who hasn't gotten aroused over literally nothing was never a teenager. Or they might have been Allegory. No offense Al.
I lol'd.
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#67 Feb 02 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default
Kaelesh wrote:

Sure, he can be uncomfortable all he wants. It's his problem. Does that mean his comfort should be considered before everyone elses rights? @#%^ no.


So if a peeping tom is looking at a girl in her backyard, that's ok because this guy has rights. Of course not, it's criminal to spy on someone like that. Both individuals should have their rights enforced. If a guy is uncomfortable with a gay male using a locker room especially if said gay was checking him out, doesn't the person being gawked at have rights? You're covering the gay man's rights, but you keep forgetting the other guy.

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Further, just because he's uncomfortable, doesn't mean he gets to harass or belittle that person, regardless of orientation.


I 100% agree with this.
#68 Feb 02 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:

Sure, he can be uncomfortable all he wants. It's his problem. Does that mean his comfort should be considered before everyone elses rights? @#%^ no.


So if a peeping tom is looking at a girl in her backyard, that's ok because this guy has rights. Of course not, it's criminal to spy on someone like that. Both individuals should have their rights enforced. If a guy is uncomfortable with a gay male using a locker room especially if said gay was checking him out, doesn't the person being gawked at have rights? You're covering the gay man's rights, but you keep forgetting the other guy.


Do you realize how stupid that sounds...? I'm just curious if you're actually reading this ****.
#69 Feb 02 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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Kaelesh wrote:
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Can anyone seriously tell me they aren't grossed out by hearing about someone's sexual life.


I don't have a problem with it. I don't think the millions of Penthouse (Letters) Forum subscribers do either.


Ha, ha, I remember one of my roommates in college had a stack of Penthouse and he'd read the letters to us. I was so naive. I was like, "Are those real?" Like the ones where the busty teenager was dying to be @#%^ed by her loving uncle and sh*t.

You gotta remember, this was preinternets. It was an innocent time. :P

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 5:19pm by Annabella
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#70 Feb 02 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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This is a bad idea for the US military right now, and while it'll be a political victory, the end result is going to be dead gay men. Long term I'm sure it'll have almost no impact, but the time to do this ISN'T when you're involved in multiple large scale counter insurgency conflicts.
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#71 Feb 02 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
So if a peeping tom is looking at a girl in her backyard, that's ok because this guy has rights. Of course not, it's criminal to spy on someone like that. Both individuals should have their rights enforced. If a guy is uncomfortable with a gay male using a locker room especially if said gay was checking him out, doesn't the person being gawked at have rights? You're covering the gay man's rights, but you keep forgetting the other guy.


There is a large difference between Sexual Harassment and some ******* worried about a gay man checking him out in the shower because of his macho marine attitude.

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Further, just because he's uncomfortable, doesn't mean he gets to harass or belittle that person, regardless of orientation.


I 100% agree with this.


Then what's the god damn problem?
#72 Feb 02 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:

Sure, he can be uncomfortable all he wants. It's his problem. Does that mean his comfort should be considered before everyone elses rights? @#%^ no.


So if a peeping tom is looking at a girl in her backyard, that's ok because this guy has rights. Of course not, it's criminal to spy on someone like that. Both individuals should have their rights enforced. If a guy is uncomfortable with a gay male using a locker room especially if said gay was checking him out, doesn't the person being gawked at have rights? You're covering the gay man's rights, but you keep forgetting the other guy.

You have no expectations of privacy or personal space in the military, or has that changed?

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Further, just because he's uncomfortable, doesn't mean he gets to harass or belittle that person, regardless of orientation.


I 100% agree with this.

not allowing gay people to serve is belittling, you ********
#73 Feb 02 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
It's uncomfortable for someone, that's the point.
Its uncomfortable to be stuck in a M1114 for eight hours while you wait for EOD to come check out a pile of rocks with a coke can sticking out of it, but we ended up doing that for close to a year. What military were you in? Being uncomfortable is status ******* quo.
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#74 Feb 02 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Ha, ha, I remember one of my roommates in college had a stack of Penthouse and he'd read the letters to us. I was so naive. I was like, "Are those real?" Like the ones where the busty teenager was dying to be @#%^ed by her loving uncle and sh*t.

You gotta remember, this was preinternets. It was an innocent time. :P


Pre-internet? Christ you're old.

I still like the Letters. They're awesome.
#75 Feb 02 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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This is a bad idea for the US military right now, and while it'll be a political victory, the end result is going to be dead gay men. Long term I'm sure it'll have almost no impact, but the time to do this ISN'T when you're involved in multiple large scale counter insurgency conflicts.

You're right, the military can afford to keep discharging gay translators.


We've got waaaay too many of them as it is!
#76 Feb 02 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Default
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What a nice friend you are. "You can hang out with me, but anyone you're dating can't, and I don't want to hear about any of your problems with your significant other. You make me uncomfortable. But let's hang out anyway."

Dude, you're nothing if you're not a homophobe.


There is a distinct difference between locker room talk and discussing personal relationships. I said sexual preferences, not relationship preferences. Sexual meaning sexual acts. You owe me an apology.

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There is a large difference between Sexual Harassment and some @#%^ worried about a gay man checking him out in the shower because of his macho marine attitude.


I don't agree with you and neither does the law. If you suspect someone of watching you, that's sexual harassment. It doesn't matter if you're in the room or some guy has binoculars across the street. Why do you think DADT was in put into effect in the first place?

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not allowing gay people to serve is belittling, you dumb@#%^


I never said that gay people shouldn't be allowed to serve so f.u.ck. off.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:30pm by ShadowedgeFFXI

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 4:43pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
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