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#1 Jan 28 2010 at 10:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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#2 Jan 28 2010 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think one reach around from Scott Brown would change his mind.
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#3 Jan 28 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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He is a good looking dude.
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#4 Jan 28 2010 at 11:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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"This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels," McCain's statement said, later adding: "At a time when our Armed Forces are fighting and sacrificing on the battlefield, now is not the time to abandon the policy."

"Now, more than ever, we need to drive homosexuals in the military underground and expel them from service, regardless of their valuable skills, honor and loyalty to country, should they dare admit that they like the ****."
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#5 Jan 28 2010 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
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part of me is happy because it's a major step to treating gay/lesbians equally

part of me is sad because now I don't have my out if I ever get drafted.
#6 Jan 28 2010 at 11:24 PM Rating: Decent
The crazy part is, Fox News had McCain being quoted as saying it was a mistake (a whole damn article on this) seconds after the speech got over. I don't even understand (outside of mugging McFly) how that's possible.

Canned response?
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The crazy part is, Fox News had McCain being quoted as saying it was a mistake (a whole damn article on this) seconds after the speech got over. I don't even understand (outside of mugging McFly) how that's possible.

Canned response?

Probably. The White House releases portions of the speech before hand and actually released the entire thing shortly before Obama gave it. So McCain & Co. already knew that Obama would talk about it.
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#8 Jan 28 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Good
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So McCain & Co. already knew that Obama would talk about it.


Ahhh. Well that explains how McCain was a doucheface in record time.
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"This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels," McCain's statement said, later adding: "At a time when our Armed Forces are fighting and sacrificing on the battlefield, now is not the time to abandon the policy."

"Now, more than ever, we need to drive homosexuals in the military underground and expel them from service, regardless of their valuable skills, honor and loyalty to country, should they dare admit that they like the ****."
Some might enjoy the vag.
#10 Jan 29 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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"This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels," McCain's statement said, later adding: "At a time when our Armed Forces are fighting and sacrificing on the battlefield, now is not the time to abandon the policy."

"Now, more than ever, we need to drive homosexuals in the military underground and expel them from service, regardless of their valuable skills, honor and loyalty to country, should they dare admit that they like the ****."
Some might enjoy the vag.
Impossible.

McCain would never admit that women have valuable skills, especially after who he got saddled with as his VP candidate.
#11 Jan 29 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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The McCain family must have some intense conversations about gay rights these days.

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Or not.
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Some might enjoy the vag.

Hehehe... no, silly. The gays like boys...
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part of me is sad because now I don't have my out if I ever get drafted.


There are enough ways to get out of the draft that losing that is irrelevant.
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#15 Jan 29 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Some might enjoy the vag.

Hehehe... no, silly. The gays like boys...
Not all. Some enjoy bears.
#16 Jan 29 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Not all. Some enjoy bears.


So many bears in Mandersonville here.

Edited, Jan 29th 2010 12:31pm by Kaelesh
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part of me is sad because now I don't have my out if I ever get drafted.


There are enough ways to get out of the draft that losing that is irrelevant.

but not nearly as fun as showing up in daisy dukes and making out with some guy in front of everyone.
#18 Feb 02 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
I worded this post bad, sorry.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 1:59pm by ShadowedgeFFXI
#19 Feb 02 2010 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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Yet, somehow, so many other nations' armies manage to have both women and/or openly gay/bi soldiers--the British, the Canadian, etc. What is it about the Americans? Are they just not disciplined enough?
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#20 Feb 02 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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There is no good reason why DADT needs to be reversed. Speaking as a veteran myself, this repeal will only hurt morale. This regulation only serves to keep morale high in situations where a gay soldier would cause problems. By problems, I'm referring to war time situations, not in the garrison environment. I had one particular gay solider in my unit and he made everyone myself included feel uncomfortable. The military doesn't always have the best accommodations and having gay males showering with straight guys is only going to cause problems. Foxholes, guard duty, sleeping next to someone on a cot, etc..


So what you're saying is: "I'm homophobic and I'm more concerned where my platoon mate is sticking his **** than I am with if he's going to pull my *** out of the proverbial fire when we run into a hostile problem."

Let's not ******** anyone here.

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Let's be honest for a moment. Guys think with our *****, not our brains. Even during the worst possible situations in Iraq, a hot female solider could distract me or any straight guy for that matter. That's part of the reason why female soldiers can't be infantry. It simply causes a distraction. Under stress and hostile fire, the most primitive emotions of the human male psych take over. It's like a horny drunk guy in a club, you'll sleep with anyone if you're drunk enough. You might regret it the next morning, but you just can't help yourself if certain conditions exist.


So you can't control yourself? Everytime you see a woman you lose your mind and complete break down and can't do basic math? Do you honestly think that a gay male is really thinking about you while cleaning his rifle?

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By having an openly gay soldier in a unit with other guys who are entrenched in combat, only bad things can happen. War time is not the place for equality of your sexual preference. I can easily see a gay soldier being beat up or shot by friendly fire because the straight soldier felt they were watching them shower or something similar. I can see gays being allowed to serve in certain military jobs, but just like women, it has to be regulated so bad things don't happen. This isn't a matter of professionalism either. I wish it was as simple as that, but it's not. Animal instincts take over, that's the best way I can describe it. What works in an office setting doesn't translate well to a war zone. You see the best and worst of the people you work with and that's no lie.


Really, the only thing that you see with robots like yourself is the worst of people in these situations.
#21 Feb 02 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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Its people like Shadow that makes me have to apologize to people when I'm in uniform.
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#22 Feb 02 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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There is no good reason why DADT needs to be reversed. Speaking as a veteran myself, this repeal will only hurt morale. This regulation only serves to keep morale high in situations where a gay soldier would cause problems. By problems, I'm referring to war time situations, not in the garrison environment. I had one particular gay solider in my unit and he made everyone myself included feel uncomfortable. The military doesn't always have the best accommodations and having gay males showering with straight guys is only going to cause problems. Foxholes, guard duty, sleeping next to someone on a cot, etc..

Let's be honest for a moment. Guys think with our *****, not our brains. Even during the worst possible situations in Iraq, a hot female solider could distract me or any straight guy for that matter. That's part of the reason why female soldiers can't be infantry. It simply causes a distraction. Under stress and hostile fire, the most primitive emotions of the human male psych take over. It's like a horny drunk guy in a club, you'll sleep with anyone if you're drunk enough. You might regret it the next morning, but you just can't help yourself if certain conditions exist.

By having an openly gay soldier in a unit with other guys who are entrenched in combat, only bad things can happen. War time is not the place for equality of your sexual preference. I can easily see a gay soldier being beat up or shot by friendly fire because the straight soldier felt they were watching them shower or something similar. I can see gays being allowed to serve in certain military jobs, but just like women, it has to be regulated so bad things don't happen. This isn't a matter of professionalism either. I wish it was as simple as that, but it's not. Animal instincts take over, that's the best way I can describe it. What works in an office setting doesn't translate well to a war zone. You see the best and worst of the people you work with and that's no lie.


Strangely enough, this sounds exactly like the argument my cousins tried to use against me. Chris, that you?

Your problem is that your homophobic. No, seriously, it is. You're saying repealing DADT will hurt morale... because you get freaked out by gays. But you admit gays are already there. Then... what would repealing DADT do? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

You don't want gays in the military. Fantastic for you. I say give them a chance if they want to serve, and give them the legal tools to stand up against the obvious discrimination people like you shower upon them. Shower was a pun, by the way. Pun intended.
#23 Feb 02 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why does it matter so much? Everyone can already tell that they're gay as they floating across the battlefield and such.
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#24 Feb 02 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let's be honest for a moment. Guys think with our *****, not our brains.


Well, it "qualifies" y'all for the best jobs and the best pay, so I'm not sure what the problem is, really.

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Even during the worst possible situations in Iraq, a hot female solider could distract me or any straight guy for that matter. That's part of the reason why female soldiers can't be infantry. It simply causes a distraction.


As above, other countries manage it somehow.

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Under stress and hostile fire, the most primitive emotions of the human male psych take over. It's like a horny drunk guy in a club, you'll sleep with anyone if you're drunk enough. You might regret it the next morning, but you just can't help yourself if certain conditions exist.


Uh huh. You're afraid you'll sleep with a *** in the middle of combat. Gotcha.

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Edited, Feb 2nd 2010 11:55am by Samira
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#25 Feb 02 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
I don't feel reversing the DADT policy won't help anything. There are already thousands of gays in the military. Sorry my previous post didn't convey my thoughts properly. I'm not homophobic person. I just don't see any positive reason for wanting this rule appealed. It's not like gays could get married while in the service anyway. So seriously, what's the point.
#26 Feb 02 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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If you already have/had gay guys in your unit (heh) who made everyone just ever so uncomfortable by being (presumably) attracted to them, then what is the difference whether it's repealed or not?
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