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You don't really understand words do you varrus.
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publiusvarus wrote:
You have us conservatives confused with how you liberal nut jobs treated W. Near as I can tell we've never claimed Obama was illigitimate.
Orly Taitz is pissed you never call and you never write anymore.
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pubes is just being a typical liberal, badmouthing the commander in chief during a war.
what a unpatriotic, unamerican, liberal, ****, terrorist-loving, marxist
what a unpatriotic, unamerican, liberal, ****, terrorist-loving, marxist
KingJohn wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
You have us conservatives confused with how you liberal nut jobs treated W. Near as I can tell we've never claimed Obama was illigitimate.
Orly Taitz is pissed you never call and you never write anymore.
This was the first thing I thought of too when Varus said Obama isn't facing criticism on his legitimacy as PotUS. It's like the memory of a goldfish... resets every 6 seconds or so?
LockeColeMA wrote:
KingJohn wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
You have us conservatives confused with how you liberal nut jobs treated W. Near as I can tell we've never claimed Obama was illigitimate.
Orly Taitz is pissed you never call and you never write anymore.
This was the first thing I thought of too when Varus said Obama isn't facing criticism on his legitimacy as PotUS. It's like the memory of a goldfish... resets every 6 seconds or so?
Don't be insulting.
I'm pretty sure mythbusters showed that even goldfish have a better memory than varus.
Bardalicious wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
KingJohn wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
You have us conservatives confused with how you liberal nut jobs treated W. Near as I can tell we've never claimed Obama was illigitimate.
Orly Taitz is pissed you never call and you never write anymore.
This was the first thing I thought of too when Varus said Obama isn't facing criticism on his legitimacy as PotUS. It's like the memory of a goldfish... resets every 6 seconds or so?
Don't be insulting.
I'm pretty sure mythbusters showed that even goldfish have a better memory than varus.
Sorry goldfish :-(
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The MythBusters TV show taught some goldfish to swim through a maze, noting that their time got better on each successive run. And an interesting response to the AnswerBag Forum describes goldfish memory as "selective" -- they have a general idea of what happened on a previous occasion, they're just not sure what. We empathize.
I dunno... selective memory seems more like Varus. Maybe he is a goldfish after all?
(Sorry again goldfishes)
publiusvarus wrote:
Xarus,
Better than you apparently.
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You don't really understand words do you varrus.
Better than you apparently.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Xarus,
Better than you apparently.
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You don't really understand words do you varrus.
Better than you apparently.
The triumph of hope over experience.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Xarus,
Better than you apparently.
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You don't really understand words do you varrus.
Better than you apparently.
The triumph of hope over experience.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
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publiusvarus wrote:
I'm curious if there's anything Obama does that isn't carefully scripted.
This may have already been said but after the debauchery that was George W. Bush, I would be afraid to not script things. Look how that turned out for us...
Bardalicious wrote:
pubes is just being a typical liberal, badmouthing the commander in chief during a war.
what a unpatriotic, unamerican, liberal, ****, terrorist-loving, marxist
what a unpatriotic, unamerican, liberal, ****, terrorist-loving, marxist
And ladies, He's single...
Edited, Jan 26th 2010 1:47pm by toohotforu
publiusvarus wrote:
Toot,
Debauchery? Do you even know what that word means? Now if you had described Clinton like that I could understand.
Debauchery? Do you even know what that word means? Now if you had described Clinton like that I could understand.
You are correct, I didn't mean that. Let me try again...
Retardation, stupidity, Absurded, nonsensical, foolish, goofy, idiotic, mindless, obtuse, simpleminded, slow, thick, touched, moronic, unintelligent.
Pick one.
The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Retardation, stupidity, Absurded, nonsensical, foolish, goofy, idiotic, mindless, obtuse, simpleminded, slow, thick, touched, moronic, unintelligent.
The correct answer is "thick".
But Varrus should probably say "touched".
Honestly, what is it with you and Obama's teleprompter? Do you honestly think other presidents got up at the podium and winged it?
Well, after listening to some of Bush's stuff...
Well, after listening to some of Bush's stuff...
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Honestly, what is it with you and Obama's teleprompter? Do you honestly think other presidents got up at the podium and winged it?
Well, after listening to some of Bush's stuff...
Well, after listening to some of Bush's stuff...
Obama doesn't want his enemies to misunderestimate him.
"I have lost my way
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement"
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement"
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Honestly, what is it with you and Obama's teleprompter? Do you honestly think other presidents got up at the podium and winged it?
Other presidents weren't swept to victory by a populist movement largely energized by making fun of the previous president for his presumed lack of intelligence and speaking skills. I suspect that if the vocal left hadn't made this such a major point for 8 years, no one would care about when and why Obama uses a teleprompter. Hoist on your own petard and all that...
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Well, after listening to some of Bush's stuff...
My point exactly. You can't criticize Bush for 8 years about this and then expect everyone to just look the other way when it turns out Obama is just like every other president in this regard.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
My point exactly. You can't criticize Bush for 8 years about this and then expect everyone to just look the other way when it turns out Obama is just like every other president in this regard.
I didn't criticize Bush for using a teleprompter; I criticized him because he wasn't a good orator, even with one.
I never criticized bush at all for this. Made fun of it maybe, but this quirk had really no impact on my overall opinion of the president.
Yeah, that had very little if anything to do with it.
Edited, Jan 26th 2010 3:45pm by Xsarus
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Other presidents weren't swept to victory by a populist movement largely energized by making fun of the previous president for his presumed lack of intelligence and speaking skills.
Yeah, that had very little if anything to do with it. Edited, Jan 26th 2010 3:45pm by Xsarus
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I never criticized bush at all for this. Made fun of it maybe, but this quirk had really no impact on my overall opinion of the president.
You didn't criticize, but you did "make fun" of it? Er?
Why be surprised when people "make fun" of Obama's use of the same thing?
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Other presidents weren't swept to victory by a populist movement largely energized by making fun of the previous president for his presumed lack of intelligence and speaking skills.
Yeah, that had very little if anything to do with it.It was one of many things that were hyped about Obama that made him "better than Bush". So yeah, it's kinda relevant to point out that Obama isn't a perfect speaker either. You do get that a lot of this is perception made into reality, right? If you tell everyone over and over "Bush is a bad speaker" and then show them nothing but Bush speaking gaffes, you'll create the perception that Bush is a bad speaker. Tell everyone that Obama is a great speaker, and minimize any gaffes he makes, and they'll have the opposite perception.
A whole lot of that perception is manufactured. I don't think it's at all wrong to poke a hole in that bubble from time to time. The reality is that Obama is not significantly better or worse at speaking than most presidents and neither was Bush. While I'll acknowledge that Bush used a more colloquial word choice than Obama, that should not be the barometer by which we measure a speaker.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
I'd say that Obama is a better speaker then Bush. It doesn't have much if any impact on his ability to be president, but he is a good orator in my opinion.
/shrug there is a difference between criticizing and poking fun. Most of the people who bring up Obama and teleprompters are just making fun of him. It does seem a bit weak at times, as if people are desperate to find things to pick apart, like this where they make up a story about him using a prompter to talk to kids. Hardly surprising though. You'd think you'd find better things to make fun of or criticize, like his record on following though with his transparency initiatives.
Edited, Jan 26th 2010 4:13pm by Xsarus
/shrug there is a difference between criticizing and poking fun. Most of the people who bring up Obama and teleprompters are just making fun of him. It does seem a bit weak at times, as if people are desperate to find things to pick apart, like this where they make up a story about him using a prompter to talk to kids. Hardly surprising though. You'd think you'd find better things to make fun of or criticize, like his record on following though with his transparency initiatives.
Edited, Jan 26th 2010 4:13pm by Xsarus
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You do get that a lot of this is perception made into reality, right? If you tell everyone over and over "Bush is a bad speaker" and then show them nothing but Bush speaking gaffes, you'll create the perception that Bush is a bad speaker. Tell everyone that Obama is a great speaker, and minimize any gaffes he makes, and they'll have the opposite perception.
Oh so that's what it was. How f-ucking stupid of everyone. It turns out that Bush was a great speaker but that god damn "perception" we all had for 8+ years was a fantasy. Who are you going to believe? Gbaji the perception-meister or your lying ears and eyes?
What I find fascinating is that there seems to be some horrible difference between a teleprompter and a piece of paper. All speeches are memorized? Gee, this guy feels more comfortable with words on glass vs words on paper. Oh snap, better launch the rightie crap barrage.
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