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#77 Jan 26 2010 at 1:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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As a general rule, I don't usually spend my little free time watching/reading fictional representations of children being raped. I don't find it fits within my small window allotted for "entertainment". I've seen/heard too much for it to be something I would spend my "fun" time doing. I bet there are others who might feel the same way, maybe Anna.

Non-fiction is different, and I did find Sebold's Lucky to be very grounded and interesting and incredibly honest. Her self-reflection and admittance about the usefulness of her racial/ethnic makeup/socioeconomic status/geographical location/etc in winning her case was amazing and rare.

There now, can I be forgiven for expecting that the horrific child rape/murder fable would not be particularly rewarding for me personally?

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Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:48pm by Nexa
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#78 Jan 26 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Nexa, you're a bad, bad person. No cookie.


As a general rule, I don't usually spend my little free time watching/reading fictional representations of children being raped. I don't find it fits within my small window allotted for "entertainment". I've seen/heard too much for it to be something I would spend my "fun" time doing. I bet there are others who might feel the same way, maybe Anna.

Non-fiction is different, and I did find Sebold's Lucky to be very grounded and interesting and incredibly honest. Her self-reflection and admittance about the usefulness of her racial/ethnic makeup/socioeconomic status/geographical location/etc in winning her case was amazing and rare.

There now, can I be forgiven for expecting that the horrific child rape/murder fable would not be particularly rewarding for me personally?

Nexa

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:48pm by Nexa


Fine. But only one cookie.

And I wasn't discussing the subject of the movie, as I have no idea what it's about. I was punishing you for daring to disagree with Morarae. In fact, I refuse to see it because "The Lovely Bones" is a stupid title. And I hate the word "lovely".

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:51pm by Nadenu
#79 Jan 26 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:


Fine. But only one cookie.

And I wasn't discussing the subject of the movie, as I have no idea what it's about. I was punishing you for daring to disagree with Morarae. In fact, I refuse to see it because "The Lovely Bones" is a stupid title. And I hate the word "lovely".

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:51pm by Nadenu


How can anyone hate the word "lovely". God, you're a stupid ****.

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#80 Jan 26 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:


Fine. But only one cookie.

And I wasn't discussing the subject of the movie, as I have no idea what it's about. I was punishing you for daring to disagree with Morarae. In fact, I refuse to see it because "The Lovely Bones" is a stupid title. And I hate the word "lovely".

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:51pm by Nadenu


How can anyone hate the word "lovely". God, you're a stupid ****.

Nexa


Stupid might be going overboard...

I hate the word "sweetheart" too. I've been known to kill when I hear it.
#81 Jan 26 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:


Fine. But only one cookie.

And I wasn't discussing the subject of the movie, as I have no idea what it's about. I was punishing you for daring to disagree with Morarae. In fact, I refuse to see it because "The Lovely Bones" is a stupid title. And I hate the word "lovely".

Edited, Jan 26th 2010 2:51pm by Nadenu


How can anyone hate the word "lovely". God, you're a stupid ****.

Nexa


Stupid might be going overboard...

I hate the word "sweetheart" too. I've been known to kill when I hear it.


This needs a new thread, but I hate: tenderly, moist, ointment, considerate, among others. Smash likes to use them in combination to irritate me. He'll say something about someone in some movie being a kind and considerate lover who tenderly blah blah blah and I'll just feel like I'm going to be sick.

Lovely, ain't it?

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#82 Jan 26 2010 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think I must be pretty jaded.

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#83 Jan 26 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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I think I must be pretty jaded.


Seems to be a pretty big club.
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#84 Jan 26 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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I think I must be pretty jaded.


To enjoy child rape revenge fantasy? I'd say that's the opposite of jaded, that's about the widest audience you can swing for when writing a book that doesn't cast it's antagonist as either ***** or actual demons. I mean, it's basically the plot of 98% of bollywood and hong kong movies produced in the last 30 years, with varying degrees of kung fu and singing, of course. Nexa loves Sister Street Fighter, so I'd say that while she'd like to cloak it in the aesthetic of not liking the dead raped girl angle, the reality is probably: not enough kung fu. It's possible I'm lusciously wrong about that, if so, I tenderly apologize in a moist sort of way.


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#85 Jan 26 2010 at 4:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Very little revenge fantasy involved, as I recall (from the book - I haven't seen the movie). Yeah, it was nice that he died in the end; but most of it was the people around her dealing with losing her and not knowing who her killer was.

Or that's what I took away from it, anyway.
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#86 Jan 26 2010 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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I'm confused by the concept that enjoying violence has to do anything with appreciation of the theme of the work. I don't like **** rape and get no real kicks from suicide, but I did enjoy Shawshank Redemption.

I suppose I thought that the idea that a spirit endures and guides someone through coping with violent loss comforting. God, I must be an asshole.
#87 Jan 26 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I know. We're jerks, and we glorify violence against women and children.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN, FLEA.
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#88 Jan 26 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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THINK OF THE CHILDREN, FLEA.
But not in violent situations? Sorry. That's just no fun.
#89 Jan 26 2010 at 9:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, thank goodness my novel in progress is safe, then.

I'm grinding up baby livers for the ink.

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#90 Jan 26 2010 at 9:48 PM Rating: Good
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That dials the entertainment level up to an 11.
#91 Jan 26 2010 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
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That dials the entertainment level up to an 11.


11 what?

http://xkcd.com/670/
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#92 Jan 26 2010 at 10:12 PM Rating: Good
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I'm grinding up baby livers for the ink.
That dials the entertainment level up to an 11.


11 what?

http://xkcd.com/670/
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#93 Jan 27 2010 at 7:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm confused by the concept that enjoying violence has to do anything with appreciation of the theme of the work. I don't like **** rape and get no real kicks from suicide, but I did enjoy Shawshank Redemption.

I suppose I thought that the idea that a spirit endures and guides someone through coping with violent loss comforting. God, I must be an asshole.


Maybe you're replying to Smash, I'm not sure, but that wasn't my point at all. I just meant that in real life, I have dealt not infrequently with people who have suffered pretty awful abuses and so, FOR ME, I don't really want to think about/observe fictional accounts along the same lines as a form of entertainment.

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#94 Jan 27 2010 at 7:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totally understandable. The movie reviewer I usually consult first went so far as to say in his review (paraphrased), "the subject matter is so disturbing to me personally that I wouldn't be able to give you an objective read on the story, so I'm just going to talk about the acting and the effects."

I thought it was interesting that he chose to review it at all; but maybe it was assigned specifically.

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#95 Jan 27 2010 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
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Obviously, I'm uncertain how the movie compares to the book (which I only read about a quarter of before becoming too furious at the idea), maybe it's less icky. The book also, I'm told, has a portion where the girl possesses a friends body and screws her boyfriend who had previously had a crush on her. I dunno, just not my kind of entertainment.

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While in 'imaginary' heaven Susie laments the fact that she died a virgin. Thus the sex scene.

It was a fantasy story.

I didn't see the movie, but thought the book-story was really all about Susie's desire - from beyond the grave to make a very tragic event more 'pleasant'. I liked it.


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#96 Jan 27 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think the whole "caseworker in the afterlife" part appealed to me because when I was a kid, being dragged to church and what not, I used to have anxiety about getting lost in Heaven. All those wings and harps, how would you know where you were supposed to be?

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#97 Jan 27 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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I understand not wanting to consistently experience horror or loss if you are already saturated with it in real life, but I find it not only interesting but encouraging that there is more to the story than the event itself.

I have to speak in other peoples' voices pretty consistently, and I don't think you can ever become immune to telling someone their loved one is dead, dying or permanently incapacitated due to violence. I hope I am never okay with it.

Personally, I liked that Susie's death was shown as tragic but ultimately not fatal to the family as a whole. The movie and the book are about the possibility of endurance even through the harshest experiences.
#98 Jan 27 2010 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I think the whole "caseworker in the afterlife" part appealed to me because when I was a kid, being dragged to church and what not, I used to have anxiety about getting lost in Heaven. All those wings and harps, how would you know where you were supposed to be?



And now I just had a flashback to "Defending your life"...
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