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#1 Jan 23 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Authority is an interesting word. You can be the person being impacted by a figure of authority or the figure of authority itself, often both. What I am wondering is how we are affected by Authority. What sets our tone and does it change over a lifetime?
Essentially this comes down to if you trust authority and question later, or distrust authority as a rule.

I ask as I've noticed a difference in approach to authority in some posters here, and was wondering if it is down to upbringing, job or other.

Whats your first response to Authority (feel free to comment on your choice)
Stick it to the man! all Authority sucks:1 (1.8%)
I distrust Authority:7 (12.7%)
I question Authority:22 (40.0%)
I like Authority and feel safer with someone else around to make decisions for me:0 (0.0%)
It all depends what kind. E.G: I trust my boss but do not trust the government:13 (23.6%)
I dislike Authority, especially my own:1 (1.8%)
I like being an Authority figure:2 (3.6%)
Gwen, you suck and you missed out a poll choice again ..:9 (16.4%)
Total:55


I chose "It all depends what kind. E.G: I trust my boss but do not trust the government"

I question everything as a rule, including authority. My psych is to question and to look for the exception, not try to make rules that encompass everything. I distrust 'big' government. I have no trust (or respect) for positions created with power but no penalties in place for abuse or malpractice of said power. Power needs checks and balances.
Life taught me a few lessons early on with incompetant teachers that left me in no doubt that someone in a position may not have earnt it. Its left me pissy ever since Smiley: lol

Being in a position of authority I have to use it and justify it on a daily basis. I always accept I could be wrong when dealing with percentages and have to hold up my hands when that dreaded exception pops up. From being distrustful of all authority as I was growing up, I have grown to trust more of it and I feel my barometer swinging ..

How about you?


Edited, Jan 23rd 2010 6:18pm by GwynapNud
#2 Jan 23 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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I always question the motives of authority figures. My mother was always showing us that no matter what, even the powerful make mistakes and to stand up for our rights.

Having been the one person at my youngest elementary school, willing to stand up to the principle, the parents and teachers voted me the PTA president. Sadly they wouldn't back me up, when the ***** stabbed me in the back. Finally I had enough and transfered my daughter to another school were the PTA and principle worked together to make it the best public elementary school in the city.

Lesson learned was that having Authority only works, when you have the support of those under you.

Somehow I know my grammar isn't great, but can't figure out where my mistakes are.
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#3 Jan 23 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
Being an authority figure is easy. Act like you know what you're talking about - and don't get caught out on obvious bullshit.

So: I'm going to question you if you are one, partly to reassure myself that you're not an idiot, and partly because it saves both of us time if I know the line of reasoning that's going on (because then I don't have to come running to you when things go wrong)... but only when it's not something I already know.

(Also, for those people who like to be in positions of authority, how many of you prefer to make it as non-obvious as possible that you are in such a position to those who are technically above you, while making it as obvious as possible to those who are technically at the same level or below you?)
#4 Jan 23 2010 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
I never question authority. I prefer to subsume my personal identity in that of the crowd, the mob, the cheering crowd. Roar, cheer, salute with pride and fervour as our glorious leaders parade through our ranks. Hats off to our leaders! Why carry the heavy burden of thought and the misery it entails when one can indulge in joyful self-annulment, with no price asked save unquestioning loyalty? See how the crowd rises, marches, strikes as one man, a perfect instrument of the fuhrer's will. All operating under the same Weltanschauung, with a solidarity of purpose iron-clad. Why, every night when I go home and salute the swastika I thank my lucky stars that I and my comrades had the good sense to accept authority without reservation, unlike the poor shmucks clamouring to be the next sheep to join the proverbial flock of cynicism and suspicion, of doubt and distrust.



Alternate response: I was raised to question everything - so I do!
#5 Jan 23 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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I always question authority. It seems like most decisions made by people in authority are only made *because* they can make them, not because they are the right decisions. It's a wonder I've not ever been fired.
#6 Jan 23 2010 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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I also question authority for a lot of the reasons already stated. It is easy to make decisions, big or small, when you have the power. The question to ask sometimes is why that decision? If I understand it and agree with the reasons than I'm ok. But I want the information to know why some decision was made, especially if it affects me and mine. I liken it to being the authority figure in my household with the kids. If I make a decision I know it will possibly be questioned by the oldest, so I make sure we both know why the decision is made if he asks. He may not like the decision, and he may not agree with it, but I hope that I'm at least teaching him that the decisions made are not made lightly or without forethought.
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There's no "I AM THE LAW!" option. What kind of authority poll is it without an obvious judge dread reference? I suppose I could edit the post and insert oen, but that would be abuse of authority for no apperent reason!
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#8 Jan 23 2010 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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There's no "I AM THE LAW!" option. What kind of authority poll is it without an obvious judge dread reference? I suppose I could edit the post and insert oen, but that would be abuse of authority for no apperent reason!
Hell, there's not even the more-appropriate-for-you Cartmanesque "Respect mah authoritah!" option.
#9 Jan 24 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't hesitate to question an order out loud if I perceive it to be irrational or unmerited, but I also know from being a manager that there are times when you need people to just shut up and do what they're told. Not everyone's opinion is relevant all of the time. Especially when it comes to achieving something as a group, you need a leader.
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
I always question authority. It seems like most decisions made by people in authority are only made *because* they can make them, not because they are the right decisions. It's a wonder I've not ever been fired.
I disagree. Not with you questioning authority. That's fine, but with you thinking people make decisions "because they can". I find most decisions are made with the best intentions in mind, but without considering all perspectives. The decisions are made with the intent of making things better, unfortunately, far too many people in authoritive positions aren't suited for them and have poor decision making skills.

/grumpy ***hole

Also, Gwyn, for fucks sake, stop making polls with so many god damned options. You're seriously watering down your results. If you had 1000 people responding, maybe you could justify them.
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#11 Jan 25 2010 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
I always question authority. It seems like most decisions made by people in authority are only made *because* they can make them, not because they are the right decisions. It's a wonder I've not ever been fired.
I disagree. Not with you questioning authority. That's fine, but with you thinking people make decisions "because they can". I find most decisions are made with the best intentions in mind, but without considering all perspectives. The decisions are made with the intent of making things better, unfortunately, far too many people in authoritive positions aren't suited for them and have poor decision making skills.

/grumpy ***hole


I know, but it sure seems that way some times. Especially where I work now. Management (read: one guy) is trying to turn the club into something no one wants, especially the members. It's just frustrating.
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OK, to be fair, I should clraify that I think what I listed is a gerneral rule of thumb. There are always cases where some ******** gets into a position of authority and abuses it.

Ok, after typing the above line, maybe your point is the norm and mine's a common exception.
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#13 Jan 25 2010 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
OK, to be fair, I should clraify that I think what I listed is a gerneral rule of thumb. There are always cases where some sh*thead gets into a position of authority and abuses it.

Ok, after typing the above line, maybe your point is the norm and mine's a common exception.


Well, people don't typically do things "just because they can". Usually there is some reason that they perceive their actions will create some kind of beneficial effect. In many cases, these people are just morons. If they didn't think there was some benefit they'd tend to do nothing, as inertial laziness is standard.
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Well, people don't typically do things "just because they can". Usually there is some reason that they perceive their actions will create some kind of beneficial effect. In many cases, these people are just morons. If they didn't think there was some benefit they'd tend to do nothing, as inertial laziness is standard.
Sure, but the asshat on the power trip does so for self serving purposes. The ones I mentioned in my first post do so because they think it's best for everyone involved.
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Sure, but the asshat on the power trip does so for self serving purposes. The ones I mentioned in my first post do so because they think it's best for everyone involved.


In just about every case, it's for personal gain. Incidentally, those decisions may help others.
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Timelordwho wrote:
In just about every case, it's for personal gain. Incidentally, those decisions may help others.
Sure, if you want to be an ******* and speak only of the very root of it, then sure, it's for personal gain.
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Sure, if you want to be an @#%^ and speak only of the very root of it, then sure, it's for personal gain.


Hey, I acknowledged that sometimes others benefit from it. What makes the system work is that they are smart enough to create a benefit, but not smart enough to extract all the benefit, personally.
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