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#52 Jan 15 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent

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Is it forcing Christians to accept gay marriage? Is it forcing gays to accept they cannot be married?

Yes.

You realize these two are the exact opposite situation, right? I mean, I'm glad you admit that forcing gays to accept they cannot be married is wrong, but I think you just didn't read what I wrote.

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#53 Jan 15 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Excellent

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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:

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Also: I am definitely making steak for dinner.

SCORE!!

Show your love with rate-ups, please.

Nadenue, bring condoms.

Why would you and I need a condom?? Smiley: confused

Spoken like a woman who doesn't know where my stap-on's been.

Ack, and now I'm not sure I want to know...

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#54 Jan 15 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent

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Do you pick and choose which aspects of Christianity are relevant? Do you decide which commandments are good and which are ok to break if you need to?

John 13:34-35 wrote:

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

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If you think it's ok to ignore some parts of the bible because pop culture says so I'd suggest you rethink your relationship with Jesus.

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#55 Jan 15 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent

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Ack, and now I'm not sure I want to know...

More steak for us!

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#58 Jan 15 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Excellent

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So varus, you MUST be a virgin, right? Since sex before marriage is a sin and all...

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#60 Jan 15 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent

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So varus, you MUST be a virgin, right? Since sex before marriage is a sin and all...

Am I perfect? Are you?

Does that mean because i'm imperfect that I have to accept other sinful acts?

People in glass houses and all...

And yes, I am imperfect and I accept others' imperfections. Unlike you, I don't consider being homosexual to be an imperfection of course.

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#61 Jan 15 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent

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So varus, you MUST be a virgin, right? Since sex before marriage is a sin and all...

Am I perfect? Are you?

Does that mean because i'm imperfect that I have to accept other sinful acts?

Nope, but it means you're a hypocrite if you're using that as your basis for not allowing homosexuals to marry while non-virgins can!

(And if you're not using that as a basis, you're just being irrelevant and there was no need to bring it up).

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#62 Jan 15 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

Nadenu,

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So varus, you MUST be a virgin, right? Since sex before marriage is a sin and all...

Am I perfect? Are you?

Does that mean because i'm imperfect that I have to accept other sinful acts?

You revel in it varus.

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#63 Jan 15 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

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So varus, you MUST be a virgin, right? Since sex before marriage is a sin and all...

Am I perfect? Are you?

Does that mean because i'm imperfect that I have to accept other sinful acts?

Now you're God, endowed with the ability to gauge sin?

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And be ye kind one to another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. -Ephesians 4:32

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. -Luke 6:37

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#64 Jan 15 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Default

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Unlike you, I don't consider being homosexual to be an imperfection of course.

The Bible considers homoseuality to be a sin. I didn't make this up.

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#65 Jan 15 2010 at 2:53 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

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Unlike you, I don't consider being homosexual to be an imperfection of course.

The Bible considers homoseuality to be a sin. I didn't make this up.

And that's your response. Seriously?

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#66 Jan 15 2010 at 2:53 PM Rating: Excellent

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Unlike you, I don't consider being homosexual to be an imperfection of course.

The Bible considers homoseuality to be a sin. I didn't make this up.

Technically isn't it only sodomy? I mean, oral is totally allowed still. And circle jerks. And scissoring (for the ladies).

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#68 Jan 15 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent

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Amusing as Varus is, his arguments are irrelevant anyway. The Bible could be a notecard saying nothing but "Gays = Bad" and it wouldn't matter. The simple answer is that the Bible should not be the basis for any of our laws. That's not to say that our laws can't ever mirror the various rules in the Bible but that our own rationale should always have purely secular roots. To suggest otherwise is to promote theocracy.

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#69 Jan 15 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

Nadenu,

I'd be more concerned with your own responses. Have you noticed they all have to do with how "YOU" feel about the subject.

I have no idea what you mean. I'm supposed to discuss how Joph feels about this?

Or maybe I'm supposed to discuss feeling Joph.

So confused...

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#70 Jan 15 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Excellent

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Amusing as Varus is, his arguments are irrelevant anyway. The Bible could be a notecard saying nothing but "Gays = Bad" and it wouldn't matter. The simple answer is that the Bible should not be the basis for any of our laws. That's not to say that our laws can't ever mirror the various rules in the Bible but that our own rationale should always have purely secular roots. To suggest otherwise is to promote theocracy.

Do me.

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#73 Jan 15 2010 at 3:10 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

I disagree.

You're wrong.

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#74 Jan 15 2010 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

Nadenu,

Actually it was meant for you to think about what the Bible says before spouting of that "you" believe this or that. It's not about "you" it's about what's right. This has nothing to do with your personal views.

Some of us really don't care what the bible says.

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#75 Jan 15 2010 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent

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publiusvarus wrote:

Nadenu,

Actually it was meant for you to think about what the Bible says before spouting of that "you" believe this or that.

Why not? You do.

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