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People who thought anything else were deluding themselves. There is always a post-honeymoon backlash, always.

What's funny is watching you scramble to insist that two cases which differ in almost every single relevant way are in fact exactly the same.


I'm going to assume that in a different situation you'd argue that the first and most important thing for the government to establish before sending someone off to a military prison instead of a civilian jail would be whether that person was a combatant or not, right? That's your answer. In one case, he denied being a combatant and we didn't know otherwise until long after he'd already been charged. In the other, he proudly declared his combatant status, what group he was fighting for, and the group itself claimed responsibility for the freaking attack!


Apples and oranges and all that... But you just keep on insisting that they were really identical cases. It makes you look so darn smart!

Well, since he hasn't done everything he promised in the first year, solved the terrorism problem and ended the wars in the Middle East, rebuilt our economy and healthcare and fixed the energy grid...hell, that's grounds for impeachment! Just think of what he won't do in year two!

No. It's about hearing constant gushing claims by reporters, pundits, and people on the street, that if only we elect Obama, he'll fix all out problems. He knows how to deal with terrorism. He knows how to fix the economy. Just vote for him and all your troubles will be over!!!


And when some of us sane and rational people pointed out that he couldn't possibly do these things, and that he was just a normal guy, and honestly a less than qualified one for the position he was pursuing, we were dismissed, called racists, and otherwise marginalized. Now, when it turns out that in fact Obama can not walk on water, turn water into wine, and feed a multitude with a basket of fish and a single loaf of bread, your explanation is that he's really just a normal guy and we shouldn't have expected anything else.


Ok. So where were you making sure people understood this during the campaign Joph? This is what I've been talking about. You willingly support something you know to be false when it's politically convenient for you, then when it becomes obvious that it was false, you excuse it by saying that we shouldn't have expected it to be true in the first place. Um... What? So you're basically saying we should never believe anything you say, or support any political idea you support. Got it!

In the absence of evidence showing him to be connected with a terrorist group, and barring him claiming to be, we're kinda expected to assume he's not, right?


Are you just stupid? Or just pretending to be so because it's funny for your argument.


I'm not "spinning" anything Joph. They are two different situations. What's funny is a bunch of liberals attempting to excuse Obama's behavior by arguing that "Bush did the same thing!". That's funny on at least two different levels...

That was some crack investigation work to find out


No, you are but it's fine. No one expects anything else from ya.

No. You did the same thing you're doing in this thread. Dismiss and belittle any questions of Obama's capabilities and then work really hard to change the subject so that we're all talking about Bush instead.

You see the pattern, right? I hope so...

Is your question relevant to a discussion of the success or failure of the first year of the Obama administration?

If yes, then I'll answer. If no, then it's another example of you attempting to change the subject.

Trying? You're proving my point. You asked a question that may have been appropriate in the topic on this forum page dedicated to discussing that exact issue, but instead tossed it in here. You do this all the time. I'll make a point about something which you don't want to discuss, and you respond by saying "Yeah, but what about <insert unrelated issue about the GOP>".


It's pathological Joph. You do this repeatedly.

Hehehehe... you know, if I hadn't already posted in this thread with a more critical assessment of Obama than 70% of the people here that might really, really worry me

But, since you're too afraid to answer the question, I'll answer it for you!

Where are we going today, Mr. Peabody?
Well, Sherman, we're going back in time to January 11th. A time when Gbaji talked about politicians not always being completely sincere.
Golly! That sounds dangerous!
Well, Sherman, I figure if we're attacked I can fall back on the fact that I'm a dog and as long as I stay on all fours and bark, people will leave me alone. I guess you're fucked, though.
...


Why, it almost sounds as though Gbaji is admitting (as much as he's able) that the GOP politicans who were on the Sunday shows wringing their hands and crying their crocodile tears were using politics when they expressed their "outrage" (quotes brought to you by Gbaji). Almost as though... they weren't being sincere?

But then when I agree that, yeah it's politics and yeah the Democrats would probably do the same thing and I don't see why this would surprise anyone...

OMG JOPHIEL SAID HE LIKES LYING LIARS AND THEIR LIAR POLICIES OF LIES AND THIS PROVES LIES AND LIARS LYING ABOUT LYING LIES LIARS LIARSOMGLIESLIESLIESLIES!!!!!!

Then, when Gbaji is asked directly if he thinks those guys were being sincere...


Hahahahahaha... it's solid gold

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 7:35pm by Jophiel

Well, she's smarter than you are so maybe you should listen to her.

Because you were making your sad little attempt to cry about it in this thread? And you ignored me asking about it multiple times in that thread?

You know... because you want the scary question to go away.

I tried. You ignored it over and over again because you're afraid to answer. It's no big deal, really. Your silence is worth more than your words.




Tee-hee. It's like you don't even know what you're typing when you type it.




I love that response though: "You... you... you're violating forum policy by asking me that!" God, this is hilarious. I've seen a lot of lame-*** shit around here but this is probably the first time in a decade of posting that I've seen someone try to pull up "forum policy" as a reason why they won't answer a question they know makes them look bad

Golden.