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#1 Jan 12 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Coming up on the one year anniversary of the inauguration, grade the Commander-in-Chief & Head Executive of the United States based on the previous twelve months.
I give President Obama a...
A+:2 (2.2%)
A:4 (4.4%)
A-:6 (6.6%)
B+:20 (22.0%)
B:19 (20.9%)
B-:14 (15.4%)
C+:9 (9.9%)
C:4 (4.4%)
C-:4 (4.4%)
D+:0 (0.0%)
D:2 (2.2%)
D-:1 (1.1%)
F:6 (6.6%)
Total:91

Feel free to state your reasons or don't. We're pretty casual here in =4.

Also, this thread is for talking about whatever Jophiel wants.

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 8:25pm by Jophiel
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#2 Jan 12 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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Polls don't work on the phone, so B+ for me. Still early for anything higher. He's stayed pretty true to what he promised, and he inherited a clusterf*cket that'll take some time to untangle.
#3 Jan 12 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
B+.

He gets high marks for making the world not hate America as much, and for helping the Great Recession not become Great Depression 2.0. He loses a few points for being slow on other issues.
#4 Jan 12 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Originally I was going to go with B+, but instead I went C+. He's above average, but most of his big goals are not yet accomplished. Assuming that the next time this kind of thread comes around and he's accomplished more, a B+ will be a given. "Accomplished" in this sense being "close Guantanamo, have a clear view of the end of the war in Iraq, and pass healthcare reform."

I'd give bonus points for him addressing global genocide, introducing more environmentally friendly policies, or stopping DOMA, but I'm realistic.

Edit: I'm grading harsher than most of my professors would, though :) I didn't expect much to get done this early on, and at the recession didn't become a depression and the world likes us a bit more.

Edited, Jan 12th 2010 3:32pm by LockeColeMA
#5 Jan 12 2010 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I gave him a D-, mainly because he didn't actually cause the entire country to collapse into chaos (yet). He's broken nearly every promise he made during the campaign (it's interesting and telling that most Libs think the opposite, which only highlights the "mixed perceptions" argument I've made in the past). He's telegraphed to sponsors of terror that he's not going to go after them, but merely arrest and try the dupes they send to commit attacks, leading to more planned attacks on our nation (predictably, but there you have it). He's followed and compounded upon a potentially disastrous economic policy, using it to put his people into positions of power in industry rather than to actually fix the problems themselves. He promised us the most open and transparent administration ever, yet so far appears to be running the most secretive and evasive one since Nixon (and he might just be edging him out on that score).


I'll acknowledge that as many of the problems going on are caused by nuts in the Congress, but he presented himself to the voters as a moderate who wouldn't do crazy things, but instead of moderating the more radical forces in Congress, he seems to be egging them on. His cabinet is almost a who's who list of US socialists and nutters. He's managed to bungle virtually every single major trip he's taken, and every single issue that has come across his desk. I can't think of a single important event which he handled "well". European trip? Failure. Middle East? Failure. Asia? Absolutely horrific failure. Havard professor going nuts? Failure. Terror attack? Failure.

While technically his promise to close Gitmo by the end of the year is a failure, it's something I think he shouldn't do, so that's kind of a wash. I think that health care, whether it succeeds or fails (and I mean, passes or not, it's a failure by design already) will hang around his neck for the rest of his administration. At this point, there is no "win" for him or his party. The best they can hope for is to get some mangled thing passed and hope to spend the next 20 years fixing it. No one's going to be happy except maybe the far left socialists who will cheer the increased government control.


Um. Yeah. Just shy of an F.
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#6 Jan 12 2010 at 2:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I went C+, shooting largely from the hip.

Pluses: Taking on health care & climate change, establishing at least an objective for closing Gitmo, withdrawal from Iraq/build-up in Afghanistan, over-turning the stem cell funding ban, sundry other things.

Minuses: Should have shown more leadership in HC reform, made some questionable cabinet choices where he took successful politicians and put them in posts where they are of dubious value, has broken some promises that should have been easy to keep (online period for legislation, etc), sundry other things.

I could have gone C+ or B- but my gut said C+ and so I went with it.
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#7 Jan 12 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I gave him a D-

Hehehehe... I saw the D- and the F and looked at the recent visitors. Sure enough, Gbaji and Varrus were on!

I even guessed right which one of you picked which grade Smiley: grin
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#8 Jan 12 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
I gave a B+.

Plenty of efforts and good intentions in difficult circumstances.
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#9 Jan 12 2010 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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B+, mostly because I'm of the mindset that if Bush didn't fuck everything up as royally as he did, it would've given him more liberty for "Change" instead of dedicating most of his efforts on "Repairs".

Then again...I guess a repair would be change anyway?

Either way, he's got a full plate.
#10 Jan 12 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I give one thumbs up and one thumb horizontal, because I can't come up with a legitimate letter grade.

Oh, and a "Dy-no-mite!" because, as a liberal and a Democrat, I have to bring race into it.
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#11 Jan 12 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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I gave him an A in hopes that he will read this poll and be inspired to live up to that grade.
#12 Jan 12 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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#13 Jan 12 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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He's managed to bungle virtually every single major trip he's taken, and every single issue that has come across his desk. I can't think of a single important event which he handled "well". European trip? Failure. Middle East? Failure. Asia? Absolutely horrific failure. Havard professor going nuts? Failure. Terror attack? Failure.
All failures eh?

Why was the recent terror attack a failure? Because he took two days to respond?

Edited, Jan 12th 2010 3:06pm by Xsarus
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#14 Jan 12 2010 at 3:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Why was the recent terror attack a failure?

Because you're reading a post by Gbaji.
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#15 Jan 12 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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In retrospect, I should have gone B/B-.

I forget what a monumental thing getting a HC bill passed is. Although Obama could have kept his hand on the keel more effectively, it never would have happened at all without President Obama. That's worth a bump or two on its own.
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#16 Jan 12 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Why was the recent terror attack a failure?

Because you're reading a post by Gbaji.


Do you ever get a weird sense of disbelief when reading posts? Does sometimes feel like you're suddenly transported in an alternate reality where everything is the opposite of what it should be? Does reading a forum make you want to simultaneously vomit and head butt your computer screen until you pass out?

Don't worry. You're reading a post by gbajiâ„¢.

A post by gbajiâ„¢. Only in The Asylum.
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#17 Jan 12 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Went with B+. Overall content with the job so far, has backpedaled on some things he promised that I wanted to see happen so not the best of scores.
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#18 Jan 12 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Default
Joph,

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forget what a monumental thing getting a HC bill passed is. Although Obama could have kept his hand on the keel more effectively, it never would have happened at all without President Obama.


And this is why I gave him an F. I don't think stealing from one person to pay for the healthcare of another, and destroying the economy in the process, is something to brag about.

#19 Jan 12 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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I gave him an F because I'm in a bad mood.
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#20 Jan 12 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Joph,

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forget what a monumental thing getting a HC bill passed is. Although Obama could have kept his hand on the keel more effectively, it never would have happened at all without President Obama.


And this is why I gave him an F. I don't think stealing from one person to pay for the healthcare of another, and destroying the economy in the process, is something to brag about.

Then you should give him an A, because that's not what's happening.
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#22 Jan 12 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
In retrospect, I should have gone B/B-.

I forget what a monumental thing getting a HC bill passed is. Although Obama could have kept his hand on the keel more effectively, it never would have happened at all without President Obama. That's worth a bump or two on its own.
Now we're talking!
#23 Jan 12 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
Why was the recent terror attack a failure?

Because you're reading a post by Gbaji.


I tuned into the Daily Show last night for a few minutes, and caught them recapping the terror attacks during presidency stuff. It was quite funny.
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#24 Jan 12 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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D, in a relative sense, B in an absolute sense.
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#25 Jan 12 2010 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
Given the option to vote for "Incomplete", I would have done so.

I went with a B- more on the grounds that he's doing better than anyone with his relative lack of experience should be expected to do.

And ten bonus points for managing to get the Nobel Peace Prize without actually doing anything, which bumps him from a C- to a B-.
#26 Jan 12 2010 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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B-, mostly because, of what little he has actually accomplished, I haven't generally disagreed with. There's also a few notable things that he kept from the Bush doctrine that make his campaign rhetoric seem a bit silly, though you won't hear me complaining about the majority of them. I'd give Congress a much lower rating for the general chicanery (and lack of meaningful progress) that they've made on several key issues, but that's a separate question.

However, 2009 was really just a build-up to the huge potential for 2010: cap n' trade, health care reform, financial regulation, Keynesian Stimulus: Part Deux, the Afghan surge, the KSM trial, and maybe, but probably not until after the mid-terms, card-check.
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