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#1 Jan 12 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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...but I felt this deserved its own.

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A Harvard history professor testified in San Francisco federal court today that procreation has never been the central purpose of marriage in the United States.


This, I feel, is a good start.

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#2 Jan 12 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Cott began her testimony Monday, saying that marriage has differed throughout the ages and in different cultures.


Gosh, I think that point has been made here before.

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#3 Jan 12 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
teh article wrote:
Cott began her testimony Monday, saying that marriage has differed throughout the ages and in different cultures.


Gosh, I think that point has been made here before.



I don't recall ever hearing of a discussion regarding the purposes or variations of marriage in here.

She has three strikes against her anyway. She's female, she's educated (making her unqualified because she's been poisoned by peer-reviewed study), and she's been to an Ivy League school run by the liberal elite.

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#4 Jan 12 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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True. It's probably not a reliable analysis unless it comes from Chico State.

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#5 Jan 12 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
teh article wrote:
Cott began her testimony Monday, saying that marriage has differed throughout the ages and in different cultures.


Gosh, I think that point has been made here before.



I don't recall ever hearing of a discussion regarding the purposes or variations of marriage in here.

She has three strikes against her anyway. She's female, she's educated (making her unqualified because she's been poisoned by peer-reviewed study), and she's been to an Ivy League school run by the liberal elite.

Nexa


Make that two more strikes:

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She said African Americans were initially denied U.S. citizenship on the grounds that they could not marry Caucasians. Marriage, she testified, was a liberty right.


She said it was a right, and she brought up African Americans.
#6 Jan 12 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
True. It's probably not a reliable analysis unless it comes from Chico State.



Is that a right wing blog?

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#7 Jan 12 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
teh article wrote:
Cott began her testimony Monday, saying that marriage has differed throughout the ages and in different cultures.


Gosh, I think that point has been made here before.



I don't recall ever hearing of a discussion regarding the purposes or variations of marriage in here.

She has three strikes against her anyway. She's female, she's educated (making her unqualified because she's been poisoned by peer-reviewed study), and she's been to an Ivy League school run by the liberal elite.

Nexa
Wow, you missed the threads on purposes of marriage? They were huge! A new thread is always good though.

for reference

http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4;mid=1254454767103703957;page=2;howmany=50#m1254535430265475
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1258087226135245885&page=2&howmany=50#m12581668147148986
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1256148548133461530&page=2&howmany=50#m1257388655159208503

summary -> http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1243361853255636457&page=2&howmany=50#m124353782687805516

Edited, Jan 12th 2010 2:32pm by Xsarus
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#8 Jan 12 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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AND she preemptively brought up the Liberty word.

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#9 Jan 12 2010 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
teh article wrote:
Cott began her testimony Monday, saying that marriage has differed throughout the ages and in different cultures.


Gosh, I think that point has been made here before.



I don't recall ever hearing of a discussion regarding the purposes or variations of marriage in here.

She has three strikes against her anyway. She's female, she's educated (making her unqualified because she's been poisoned by peer-reviewed study), and she's been to an Ivy League school run by the liberal elite.

Nexa
Wow, you missed the threads on purposes of marriage? They were huge!


Really? Bummer. Maybe I'll look them up sometime. They sound super interesting.

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#10 Jan 12 2010 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
True. It's probably not a reliable analysis unless it comes from Chico State.



Is that a right wing blog?

Nexa


It's a joke, basically. Woooooo skeery stuff in Brazil, says prof.

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#11 Jan 12 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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True. It's probably not a reliable analysis unless it comes from Chico State the Heritage Foundation.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#12 Jan 12 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Samira wrote:
True. It's probably not a reliable analysis unless it comes from Chico State.



Is that a right wing blog?

Nexa


It's a joke, basically. Woooooo skeery stuff in Brazil, says prof.



;)
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#13 Jan 12 2010 at 2:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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You know, it's been a punch line for years but I never realized how bad it probably is until I looked at their web site.

Chico State: come for the diploma mill, stay for the kegger.

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#14 Jan 12 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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Really? Bummer. Maybe I'll look them up sometime. They sound super interesting.

Nexa
They were certainly super something. I did a quick search for my previous post because I'm bored. links are there, but I warn you it's boring.

Edited, Jan 12th 2010 2:35pm by Xsarus
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#15REDACTED, Posted: Jan 12 2010 at 2:26 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) Poor California Democrats. The people overwhelmingly have spoken out against same sex marriage so now they have to go to the courts to overturn the will of the people.
#16 Jan 12 2010 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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sometimes the people are wrong.
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#17 Jan 12 2010 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Poor California Democrats. The people overwhelmingly have spoken out against same sex marriage so now they have to go to the courts to overturn the will of the people.



Yeah, that happens when the will of the majority crushes the rights of the minority. Call it justice, or call it a shame, either way, it works.
#18 Jan 12 2010 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Varrus wrote:
overwhelmingly

Not quite.
#19 Jan 12 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was going to make another thread on this simply because the court case going on now is huge. The ramifications are monumental and I'm surprised it was attempted now (although not unhappy, mind you). The fact that Olson is involved on the side of same-sex marriage is fantastic.

This is a great article too:

The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage
Why same-sex marriage is an American value.

By Theodore B. Olson

A snippet from the article wrote:
Many of my fellow conservatives have an almost knee-jerk hostility toward gay marriage. This does not make sense, because same-sex unions promote the values conservatives prize. Marriage is one of the basic building blocks of our neighborhoods and our nation. At its best, it is a stable bond between two individuals who work to create a loving household and a social and economic partnership. We encourage couples to marry because the commitments they make to one another provide benefits not only to themselves but also to their families and communities. Marriage requires thinking beyond one's own needs. It transforms two individuals into a union based on shared aspirations, and in doing so establishes a formal investment in the well-being of society. The fact that individuals who happen to be gay want to share in this vital social institution is evidence that conservative ideals enjoy widespread acceptance. Conservatives should celebrate this, rather than lament it.


Edited, Jan 12th 2010 3:51pm by Dozer
#20 Jan 12 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm tickled that I don't post for two years and my post count is still way higher than Nexa's.
#21 Jan 12 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
sometimes most of the time the people are wrong.


... more so in the case of republicans when dealing with minority rights. Smiley: lol
#22 Jan 12 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm tickled that I don't post for two years and my post count is still way higher than Nexa's.


Yeah, I can't be bothered to log in most of the time. Besides, if one can argue with Smash every day, what's the need for posting?

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#23 Jan 12 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Master Dozer wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
sometimes most of the time the people are wrong.


... more so in the case of republicans when dealing with minority rights. Smiley: lol
well, I was being charitable :D

http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1239119220157548900&page=7&howmany=50#m1239916818259041650
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#24gbaji, Posted: Jan 12 2010 at 2:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, that and she's wrong... ;)
#25 Jan 12 2010 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Master Dozer wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
sometimes most of the time the people are wrong.


... more so in the case of republicans when dealing with minority rights. Smiley: lol
well, I was being charitable :D


Being charitable typically never leads to interesting Asylum threads, from my typically lurker perspective. Smiley: nod

Could you imagine if ol' Varus was charitable?
#26REDACTED, Posted: Jan 12 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) Tulip,
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