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#52 Jan 12 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good

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gbaji wrote:

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No, just peel and section the orange and soak the slices overnight in vodka. No reason to juice them at all. You have delicious screwdriver bombs.

I think I'm gonna try that for the next party I go to.

I have a suspicion that this might not work out as well as you think. It might though, so try it and report back. Chop chop!

Given 6-8 weeks, this would be the proper procedure for making orange-flavored vodka.

Yeah. That was my thought as well. I don't think orange slices are the right consistency and makeup to absorb alcohol. They've got membranes and stuff...

Pretty much, yeah.

Citrus fruits and pomegranates are pretty much the list of "does not absorb alcohol well", though.

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#53 Jan 12 2010 at 11:01 PM Rating: Good

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This seems like as good a place as any to ask. Does anyone know where I can find bulk cases of Fuze drinks? The stuff is pretty damn low on everything and still manages to taste way better than plain water, but the only place I can find it is convenience stores for $1.50ish a bottle.

Just make sure you read the nutrition labels on it. Their "Slenderize" line(which is sweetened with sucralose) does indeed only have 10 calories a serving, but their "Vitalize" line is full calorie(~100 a serving).

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This is why I prefer V8.

Well, that and it tastes better than most fruit juice does.

Now if only they made gallon jugs of it - the 64oz bottle doesn't last very long when three or four people decide "ooh, I want a glass of that".

Just be careful on your sodium intake. If you're not drinking the low sodium stuff, you're drinking a lot of salt in that.

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#54 Jan 12 2010 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good

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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

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This is why I prefer V8.

Well, that and it tastes better than most fruit juice does.

Now if only they made gallon jugs of it - the 64oz bottle doesn't last very long when three or four people decide "ooh, I want a glass of that".

Just be careful on your sodium intake. If you're not drinking the low sodium stuff, you're drinking a lot of salt in that.

Unfortunately (for me), I can taste the potassium chloride they use as a salt substitute in the low-sodium V8. Nasty, bitter stuff. It makes it undrinkable.

Normally I get the antioxidant-heavy stuff, though. It doesn't make up for the extra salt, but it's not any more expensive than the regular stuff.

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#55 Jan 13 2010 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good

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It doesn't make up for the extra salt

As long as you remember that. I personally like the low sodium stuff better, myself. Plus it helps me make sure I get enough potassium in my day.

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#56 Jan 13 2010 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good

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MDenham wrote:

The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

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This is why I prefer V8.

Well, that and it tastes better than most fruit juice does.

Now if only they made gallon jugs of it - the 64oz bottle doesn't last very long when three or four people decide "ooh, I want a glass of that".

Just be careful on your sodium intake. If you're not drinking the low sodium stuff, you're drinking a lot of salt in that.

Unfortunately (for me), I can taste the potassium chloride they use as a salt substitute in the low-sodium V8. Nasty, bitter stuff. It makes it undrinkable.

Normally I get the antioxidant-heavy stuff, though. It doesn't make up for the extra salt, but it's not any more expensive than the regular stuff.

Mmmm, salt. It's what makes V8 so great!

Especially the spicy hot variety.

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#57 Jan 13 2010 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good

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V8 juice is disgusting. Splash V8 though is awesome.

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#58 Jan 13 2010 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent

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I use low sodium V8 juice as a soup base. I think it tastes very good.

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#59 Jan 13 2010 at 6:31 AM Rating: Good

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Allegory wrote:

I use low sodium V8 juice as a soup base. I think it tastes very good.

Edited, Jan 13th 2010 5:43am by Allegory

AS a soup, it's probably fine. Not so as a juice. But I don't like tomato juice either.

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#60 Jan 13 2010 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good

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gbaji wrote:

Yeah. That was my thought as well. I don't think orange slices are the right consistency and makeup to absorb alcohol. They've got membranes and stuff...

Maybe a coconut.

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Allegory wrote:

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I'm thinking "This has some vitamins that my body could use".

Then you'd be almost entirely wrong. Vitamin C is the only vitamin commonly found in juices, and you almost certainly far, far more than your daily average of the stuff. 8 ounces of grape juice in my fridge grants 120% of my daily suggested intake, as does the orange juice. I drink more than 8 ounces in a single serving, let alone only drinking one serving a day.

I'm a bit of a heavy juice drinker, and I probably average 500%-1000% of my daily recommended intake of vitamin C. I surmise you average about 200%-300%.

Ah recommended daily allowances. They are a bit arbitrary. There are some very well informed people I've heard speak about vitamin C who indicate there is benefit to having far more then the recommended dose of it. Actually, about the dose Allegory gets.

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There are some very well informed people I've heard speak about vitamin C who indicate there is benefit to having far more then the recommended dose of it. Actually, about the dose Allegory gets.

Even if this is the case, vitamin C is so plentiful these days that everyone's probably still getting their RDA.

Like Allegory (was it him? Someone upthread) said, companies add it to stuff just to make it sound healthy. Excess vitamin C is just flushed from the body so there's no harm in pumping every food product full of it and slapping a "Now with Vitamin C!" sticker on the label.

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#63 Jan 14 2010 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good

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I like my diet cranberry juice. No sugar or HFCS added (just splenda.) 5 calories for 8 ounces. Hot diggity.

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#64 Jan 14 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good

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I like my diet cranberry juice. No sugar or HFCS added (just splenda.) 5 calories for 8 ounces. Hot diggity.

Cranberry wine :) I added sugar to the berries before brewing, but the yeast should have it mostly all eaten up by now. It's clarified but still that same color - pretty eh?

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Sorry for replying to myself, but I wanted to update after watching the entire damn video.

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I have had some things sweetened purely with HFCS and I just can't believe it is sweeter then sugar, since if I added 10-15 packets of sugar my drink would have been insanely sweet (although I've not tried).

The link doesn't directly reply to this, however it does indirectly by (early on) stating the sweetness covers for the salt in most of these drinks. Go figure. Apparently why the fizzy drinks outsell the juice. No mention of carbonation. I don't drink carbonated stuff (no moral/health reasons: I just don't like it) so I can't test if the fiz covers the excess sweetness/salt also.

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Perhaps what people mean is that HFCS is sweeter then sugar per unit mass - but less sweet per calorie - therefore less (mass) is added but you get fatter?

This conjecture was wrong. HFCS and sugar have about the same density and calories. However, the number of calories that hit the liver are vastly different between fructose and glucose. HFCS has slightly more fructose but this isn't the serious problem: the real issue is eating way too much fructose from whatever source.

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