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#1 Dec 18 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
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http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=9363729

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Insurgents in Iraq have hacked into live video feeds from Predator drones, a key weapon in a Pentagon spy system that serves as the military's eyes in the sky for surveillance and intelligence collection.

File under "oy vey." [:insertpremiumsmileyhere:]
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#2 Dec 18 2009 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, they finally released this story.

I was wondering how long it would take.
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#3 Dec 18 2009 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard it on either NPR or WCBS a few days ago; they mentioned that this was happening since...summer of '08 I believe.

Protip: military data links should be encrypted. (DUH)
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#4 Dec 18 2009 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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In any event, I'm wondering when they will start mass producing super-light &cheap engagement vehicles rather than just Intel systems.
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#5 Dec 18 2009 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Well, THEIR picture is going on the 2600 Wall O' Shame.

(We ended up there last Dragon*Con by using a password on their unsecured network at the Hacking 101 panel. D'oh.)
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#6 Dec 19 2009 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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It boggles the mind that they could manage to design and build something like that but not think it would be a good idea to encrypt their data stream.
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#7 Dec 19 2009 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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It boggles the mind that they could manage to design and build something like that but not think it would be a good idea to encrypt their data stream.
Budget constraints.
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#8 Dec 19 2009 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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The MQ-9 Reapers and predator C's don't suffer from that issue. Now if you know the insurgents are watching your feed, and you know you have other systems that they can't watch, why not let them think the feed they are watching is the one from the aircraft about to shoot them with missiles, when in fact its just there to make them feel secure while the reaper drone shoots one up their tailpipe?
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The MQ-9 Reapers and predator C's don't suffer from that issue. Now if you know the insurgents are watching your feed, and you know you have other systems that they can't watch, why not let them think the feed they are watching is the one from the aircraft about to shoot them with missiles, when in fact its just there to make them feel secure while the reaper drone shoots one up their tailpipe?

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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The MQ-9 Reapers and predator C's don't suffer from that issue.

Maybe there's more than one flavor of Reaper but multiple stories I've seen say the Reaper has the same problem. To grab a random one...
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The same vulnerabilities exist with the Reaper, a larger and more powerful upgrade to the Predator, because both remotely piloted systems use similar communications networks and ground control stations.
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#12 Dec 20 2009 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The MQ-9 Reapers and predator C's don't suffer from that issue.

Maybe there's more than one flavor of Reaper but multiple stories I've seen say the Reaper has the same problem. To grab a random one...
LA Times wrote:
The same vulnerabilities exist with the Reaper, a larger and more powerful upgrade to the Predator, because both remotely piloted systems use similar communications networks and ground control stations.


Well, I'm not the LA times, and I don't have a good counter source I can cite. What I do know is that the reaper itself has a video signal encryption module using the spread spectrum frequincy hopping technology that most other army radios use. Whether or not they have it enabled due to ground station limitations, that I don't know. They may also be experiancing production shortages since there are only a few places in the U.S. cleared to manufacture the radio modules, and they are used in pretty much everything the military owns these days.
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Well, I'm not the LA times, and I don't have a good counter source I can cite. What I do know is that the reaper itself has a video signal encryption module using the spread spectrum frequency hopping technology that most other army radios use. Whether or not they have it enabled due to ground station limitations, that I don't know. They may also be experiencing production shortages since there are only a few places in the U.S. cleared to manufacture the radio modules, and they are used in pretty much everything the military owns these days.


Part of it is due to UAV production being like a year and a half or so behind schedule due to a huge increase in demand.
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