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I contend that £20 is still money, even if you never use it, so long as some £20 bills are being used.

P.S. I was raised to question everything, so I do.

This is not the same thing. Different is not more. But yes, you should use more. Why the @#%^ would you want to waste your time about some totally fruitless endeavor when you can solve it by simply saying more words to increase the precision of them?



Not the part I'm disputing.



There are infinite and no right answers. That's precisely what happens when you ***** about words and refuse to entertain the notion that maybe you should stop or move on since you're both saying the same @#%^ing thing.



And that's even more wrong.

Who would guess that "speaking to someone as if they were an adult, capable of stepping away from semantic ******** if asked" is condescension? Hot Damn.

Edited, Dec 17th 2009 5:01pm by Pensive

Cultures can be just as neurotic as individuals. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Why not? Why the would you want to make a judgement on someone who does? Why the do you have to start cursing at me because we have a difference of opinion?



Oh... so you are saying that people can value money as an end? My mistake...



You have a very, very strange idea of speaking to someone as if they were an adult when you think that means you should curse at them, tell them that continuing in a discussion they are participating in is worthless, and instructing them on how to argue.

And now, with this post, you have officially moved to malicious and condescending. Congratulations.

He is filled with rage. Excruciatingly Esoterically Elaborate rage.

I do want to understand your definition pensive.

No I'm pretty sure I'm actually interested in the discussion.

Yeah I know, but that's because you're operating under some delusion that I am psychologically capable of compartmentalizing my emotional state at present such that I could conscientiously tell you anything.

Nope, maybe by or with or near, but not at. Like I said, different preposition. You might not appreciate a difference, but I do. I try not to curse at people that I have some semblance of respect for. Maybe I'll curse around them! but that's an indication of insensitivity, not malice.



That is the point. Jesus christ. I attempt to state, flatly, how you can try to understand the position: let us abandon "money as an end" and talk about some other aspect. And you take some personal affront at the very post which is an exercise in clarity!



I have no need to imply that people are stupid. If I think that you are stupid, then I shall say that you are stupid. If you believe that I have implied that you are stupid, then you are almost certainly incorrect, and are instead projecting some sort of insecurity of possibly a fear. Right now, you are being stupid, not only stupid, but stupid without being self aware, or having knowledge of any way in which you might be missing something. You want me to list the ways in which I'm behaving irrational, or often do? It's child's play. I have that awareness to a ludicrous degree, and it's legitimately insulting that you think I'm going to lie about it, without the slightest degree of doubt or that you might simply be reading something which isn't there, mainly as it's coming from you and not some totally cynical @#%^tard. I have never seen you quite so grievously and maliciously misinterpret something before, and it's as disappointing as it is consternating. I am legitimately shocked and take affront to the degree to which you are totally and utterly dismissive of the notion that I might not be trying to hurt you feelings or say something mean to you which makes you all irritated and the reluctance you appear to have to admit any degree of possibility of that. See, I doubt you are to me, but it's really the same thing. I'm going to pat myself on the goddamn back just a smidgen for being able to realize that you probably aren't intending to sound like a vindictive or hurtful... person-thing.

Edited, Dec 17th 2009 6:03pm by Pensive

Point taken. I'll remember that in the future.



You didn't clarify it, Pensive... If anything, you asked us to clarify it for you by using a different word for whatever you were trying to convey. But we (at least, I) don't really get what you're trying to convey.



Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Ok, you win. I overreacted. Stress from work, or whatever lame excuse you want to use. I went back and read the post again, and I can see where you're coming from, and that I misunderstood. My apologies for flying off the handle, I honestly interpreted what you were saying differently.

So attempt to capture it. I think this is an interesting discussion, what money actually is.

I'd say because we have an excess of it, we no longer look at it as simply a way to get the things to stay alive and start to look at it as important in and of itself. At that point it's no longer a tool and becomes the goal. It becomes a way of keeping score. In my opinion this is an unhealthy attitude, but it certainly is there.

Edited, Dec 17th 2009 5:29pm by Xsarus