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Money can be an end for people, I find it strange that you don't understand that, it's fairly basic.
There is nothing to understand. The assertion itself is vacuous, and derives entirely from a misapprehension of what an end is, currency is, or both. Money simply is and
can be nothing but a means to obtaining some sort of higher good. That's the entire point of it; if it's not a means then it's more impotent than varus in a brothel with only women hookers and no longer has a value.
It shouldn't be hard to disprove this if the notion is so basic. Provide an example wherein money is the telos of life and you have an end. You simply can't do it. If you find a scrooge mcduck who sits on a pile of cash until he dies and has it burnt at his death, he's not valuing money as an end, because he's never considering using it and the using it is what
makes it the money. He's valuing paper as an end; one might say that he likes trees more than cash. If he spends it it's no longer an end.
Pretty simple right? Save it and it's not money, spend it and it's not an end. There isn't a third option.
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Substitute the word "money" with the broader term "wealth" and Pensive's whole argument goes away.
Good thing it's not a question of some nebulous "wealth," and that every part of your post is instantly irrelevant to that question, huh?
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It is entirely possible that your definition of "worthless" is very different from theirs.
You should learn to interpret conditions of judgments. Money isn't categorically worthless; it is worthless in the condition of that particular case, and it's not by my standard of worth. It's by scrooges own petard.
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I'm also kind of chuffed that I got about 4 denials of the thesis when the poll is so unequivocally in agreement with me. I never knew I could troll like that, like it makes me wanna go get a peach milkshake and chill out with a book or something.
Edited, Dec 17th 2009 1:44pm by Pensive