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Allegory wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Have the GREs really fallen that low?
I think the bar was already set incredibly low. I was taking a few GMAT practice test to assess my potential score, and the math is just ridiculously easy. GMAT is supposed to be harder on math and easier on vocab than the GRE, but the most difficult problems I'm seeing are 9nth grade geometry. A perfect score is very reasonably obtainable, which makes the test a joke.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 2:29am by Allegory
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The math isn't hard if you're used to doing math.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
catwho wrote:
The math isn't hard if you're used to doing math.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
If you can simply master when to use effect, and when to use affect, you'll catapult yourself into the top 5% of English writers.
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Quote:
Just think, 5 years ago, every reply to this thread would have included "GFY", and half of them would have been Thundra.
Sure you don't mean 7 years? 5 Sounds awfully recent for some reason.
For what it's worth (that is, jack fucking shit) the "decline" of the Asylum has been very recent. Say, the last two and a half years or so.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 9:25am by MDenham
catwho wrote:
The math isn't hard if you're used to doing math.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
Math *is* hard. Let's go shopping!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
MDenham wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Quote:
Just think, 5 years ago, every reply to this thread would have included "GFY", and half of them would have been Thundra.
Sure you don't mean 7 years? 5 Sounds awfully recent for some reason.
For what it's worth (that is, jack fucking shit) the "decline" of the Asylum has been very recent. Say, the last two and a half years or so.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 9:25am by MDenham
All those identical student surveys on MMOs. What a waste. I want to see some really well done psychology theses on human individual and group behaviour on public fora.
Debalic wrote:
catwho wrote:
The math isn't hard if you're used to doing math.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
Math *is* hard. Let's go shopping!
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Aripyanfar wrote:
MDenham wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Quote:
Just think, 5 years ago, every reply to this thread would have included "GFY", and half of them would have been Thundra.
Sure you don't mean 7 years? 5 Sounds awfully recent for some reason.
For what it's worth (that is, jack fucking shit) the "decline" of the Asylum has been very recent. Say, the last two and a half years or so.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 9:25am by MDenham
All those identical student surveys on MMOs. What a waste. I want to see some really well done psychology theses on human individual and group behaviour on public fora.
Aripyanfar wrote:
Debalic wrote:
catwho wrote:
The math isn't hard if you're used to doing math.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
And yes, the math looks easy, but a lot of them are trick questions with trap answers. Rarely is any question truly straightforward. On my third practice test, I did MUCH better than I did on my first one, but I still fell for a lot of trap answers.
The verbal section, to me, isn't hard. The hard part is just knowing precise definitions of words. If you know the words, the verbal section is a snap. I'm going through my old "It pays to increase your word power" omnibus edition, since those tend to be theme based and show different shades of meaning between very similar words. On every single practice test I've done, I finished the verbal section with 10 minutes to spare.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 12:56pm by lolgaxe
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I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
MDenham wrote:
Aripyanfar wrote:
MDenham wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Quote:
Just think, 5 years ago, every reply to this thread would have included "GFY", and half of them would have been Thundra.
Sure you don't mean 7 years? 5 Sounds awfully recent for some reason.
For what it's worth (that is, jack fucking shit) the "decline" of the Asylum has been very recent. Say, the last two and a half years or so.
Edited, Dec 12th 2009 9:25am by MDenham
All those identical student surveys on MMOs. What a waste. I want to see some really well done psychology theses on human individual and group behaviour on public fora.
Quote:
For those of us who gave up after honors calc ten years ago, seeing a lot of our old enemies alegebra and geometry is annoying as hell.
>Implying that algebra/geometry are difficult.
Edited, Dec 14th 2009 12:17pm by Timelordwho
Just as Planned.
catwho wrote:
The GRE adjudicators are looking for the formula because it makes it easier for them to grade the content. Intro, point/support x 3, conclusion. Bam bam bam. Anything more complicated and they'll dock points out of sheer annoyance at having to do more work.
This.
The format is designed to maximize consistent grading for large scale standardized tests, while still requiring the test takers to write an essay. If you have a single grader who is familiar with the subject matter, then the format of the essay(s) can be much more variable. But for a standardized test, you'll have hundreds of different people grading those papers, all with slightly different ideas of what a "good" paper should look like. By picking a simple standard, you can eliminate the human factor from the grading.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Quote:
But for a standardized test, you'll have hundreds of different people grading those papers, all with slightly different ideas of what a "good" paper should look like. By picking a simple standard, you can eliminate the human factor from the grading.
Certainly this is true; it is possible to grade an essay purely on syntax, but doing so is a farce. Nevertheless, if you would, in fact want to gauge someone's writing capacity on syntax instead of semantic content, a computer can do the same, and better.
Why bother pretending?
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>Implying that algebra/geometry are difficult.
Most applications of them are easy to figure out, but finishing the problem set with alacrity requires more than remembering concepts. The skillful application of the principles of algebra and geometry is understandably harder.
Of course, it is multiple choice.. easy to fudge.
Edited, Dec 14th 2009 1:19pm by Pensive
Yeah, it isn't that each individual problem is that hard. Given enough time, I could finish every single problem correctly.
However, you have 45 minutes to finish 28-30 problems. You can't spend more than a minute and a half on each one.
So some of them, when it becomes apparent you're going to have to do some fairly complicated algebra to solve, it's just easier to plug in the multiple choice answers and then make a best guess.
I'm aiming for perfect on the verbal. I'll be happy if I'm in the 600s on math.
(On that note, my studying break ends in 12 minutes, then it's back to vocab cramming for me. *sob*)
However, you have 45 minutes to finish 28-30 problems. You can't spend more than a minute and a half on each one.
So some of them, when it becomes apparent you're going to have to do some fairly complicated algebra to solve, it's just easier to plug in the multiple choice answers and then make a best guess.
I'm aiming for perfect on the verbal. I'll be happy if I'm in the 600s on math.
(On that note, my studying break ends in 12 minutes, then it's back to vocab cramming for me. *sob*)
Quote:
I'm aiming for perfect on the verbal. I'll be happy if I'm in the 600s on math.
It's a good goal. I got very close scores on both though, and I felt oodles more confident on that section than quant (and I didn't finish he quant.)
I don't study though. If you're studying that much I'm sure it will catapult you.
Well, not perfect, but still very good.
680 Verbal
660 Quant
Total: 1340
Which will make up for my mediocre 2.7 GPA in undergrad.
Essays have a genuine shot at 6/6. The topics were pretty similar to the practice essay ones I'd been messing with, so I was able to pin down the tone and structure of the grade 6 sample essays with the real ones.
I'll find out in about a month!
680 Verbal
660 Quant
Total: 1340
Which will make up for my mediocre 2.7 GPA in undergrad.
Essays have a genuine shot at 6/6. The topics were pretty similar to the practice essay ones I'd been messing with, so I was able to pin down the tone and structure of the grade 6 sample essays with the real ones.
I'll find out in about a month!
I think you got about the same scores that I did. I think I've got a little higher on the verbal tests (~700). I will say that you can't exactly compare a 680 on the GRE to the SAT--it's probably percentage-wise a higher score. Like you are probably above the 95th percentile.
IMO, given your GPA as an undergrad, I'd really think about getting together a kick *** essay for your application and sell yourself to the program. Sometimes that can be really compelling.
IMO, given your GPA as an undergrad, I'd really think about getting together a kick *** essay for your application and sell yourself to the program. Sometimes that can be really compelling.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
GREs have kind of an awkward scale structure.
800 Q = 94%-tile
720 Q = 75%-tile
610 Q = 50-tile
740+ V = 99%-tile
550 V = 75%-tile
450 V = 50%-tile
Little bit of disparity, No?
800 Q = 94%-tile
720 Q = 75%-tile
610 Q = 50-tile
740+ V = 99%-tile
550 V = 75%-tile
450 V = 50%-tile
Little bit of disparity, No?
Just as Planned.
Timelordwho wrote:
GREs have kind of an awkward scale structure.
800 Q = 94%-tile
720 Q = 75%-tile
610 Q = 50-tile
740+ V = 99%-tile
550 V = 75%-tile
450 V = 50%-tile
Little bit of disparity, No?
800 Q = 94%-tile
720 Q = 75%-tile
610 Q = 50-tile
740+ V = 99%-tile
550 V = 75%-tile
450 V = 50%-tile
Little bit of disparity, No?
Yes. However, again, if you are going to graduate school for something related to math, you take a Math GRE subject test. Verbal scores are usually more important for most majors.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Yeah, the essay is going to be fun.
"Why on earth is an English major interested in IT?"
Well . . .
"Why on earth is an English major interested in IT?"
Well . . .
catwho wrote:
Yeah, the essay is going to be fun.
"Why on earth is an English major interested in IT?"
Well . . .
"Why on earth is an English major interested in IT?"
Well . . .
The essay is incredibly important for some programs--even more than the GREs, unless you completely fuck them up.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Answer with one word.
Catwho, on the future essay wrote:
Money.
Just as Planned.
Well, this is an business/internet/general IT hybrid. They're probably also going to be interested in my portfolio, which fortunately is pretty decent thanks to all the 
websites I run.
websites I run.
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