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Did you even have health care??

We were military. I grew up with almost totally free government healthcare. Tricare ftw!

The military is socialists? Oh, the Republicans aren't going to like this.

Did you miss the part where that's nearly all paid off already?

It must be so much fun to sit around spitting out the word "Obama" all day.



It must be so much fun to sit around spitting out the word "Obama" or saying "at least the Republicans didn't do x" all day.

Edited, Dec 8th 2009 3:54pm by AshOnMyTomatoes

That's a different bail-out. About 360 $bn is paid off.

Ooh hate speech AND hyperbole! :D

The total cost for the "war on terror", including both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and all the other related stuff for the entire time period since 9/11, is only slightly more than the cost for a single year of Medicare/Medicaid. Obama and the Dems have committed us to more spending in just the last year than the entire cost for both wars as well, with almost a trillion dollars to spare.


Can we please stop playing the "But Bush spent money too!" game? It's getting silly...



How does spending a couple trillion more dollars help the situation? There's a large amount of nonsense to your logic.

Hey apple, meet orange!

Money spent on Medicare/Medicaid provides a significant societal benefit, not only in the improvement of quality of life and providing access to life-saving medicine and treatments, but also in financial savings, as uninsured people cost the taxpayers more, because they wait until illness is more advanced before seeking treatment, and are more likely to use emergency rooms when they do.

The war in Iraq has provided little, if any, societal benefit. All it has done is cost us money with no hope of return, and get our soldiers killed occupying a country that was never a significant threat to begin with. The war in Afghanistan is something you will see few, if any, people around here complaining about. Guess where the bulk of our war dollars went during the Bush administration, however?

It's disingenuous at best to attempt to compare the two. This claim is imbecilic even for you, Gbaji.

So you're saying we spent over a year's worth of Medicare/Medicaid funding? Tsk, tsk... I bet Americans could've used that.

Remember guys, the Republican healthcare plan is "don't get sick, and if you do, die early."

They'd LOVE to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. More people dying early, yay!

Can't find the most recent numbers right at the moment, but the numbers up through FY 2007 was 610B dollars, with an estimate for another 120ish Billion for 2008. So yeah, we're probably looking at somewhere around 800B dollars total spent so far on the entire "War on Terror" at this time. That's everything spent, including Afghanistan, Iraq, detainment centers, homeland security stuff, etc...

That's "slightly more" than we spend each year for Medicare/Medicaid, relatively speaking.

Obviously, that number keeps rising over time. My point is that we spend less per year (a lot less) on the wars than we spend every single year on other domestic programs. And wars do end. Those programs and the costs associated with them, tend not to. It's absurd to justify massive long term spending on domestic programs by pointing to relatively small short term foreign program spending. The scales aren't even close...