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Limewire: Man DL's "GGW", Gets CP, May get 20Follow

#1 Dec 07 2009 at 12:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Man thinks he's downloading Girls Gone Wild off of limewire a couple years back. Instead, gets Child Pornography, deletes it, & a year later is charged with possession of CP & may do 20 years.

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A local man is likely to go to prison for years after he says he accidentally downloaded child pornography onto his computer.

Matthew White, 22, said he was surfing for pornography two years ago on Limewire -- a fire sharing application that allows users to trade music, movies, games and pictures -- when he discovered that some of the files he had downloaded were images of children.

Matt claims he quickly erased the files.

"It didn't appeal to me," he said. "I was looking for women my age, so I just wanted to download 'College Girls Gone Wild' and accidentally downloaded underage pornography."

About a year later, FBI agents showed up at his family's home. The family agreed to let agents examine the computer, and at first, they couldn't find anything.

Investigators later were able to recover the deleted images from deep within the hard drive.

"I asked them, 'Where did you get that? I don't remember that.' I asked them, 'Could I access that if I wanted to?'" Matt said. "They said no."

Facing 20 years in prison for possessing child pornography, Matt is pleading guilty on the advice of his public defender in hopes of getting a three and a half year sentence. He will also serve 10 years probation and have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

Matt's father says other parents need to be warned about the consequences of stumbling across illicit material.

"One day, you're going to get a knock on the door and have your child taken away for many years," he said.

Matt's court date has been moved to January 8th due to paperwork issues, according to reports.

The FBI could not comment on this specific case, but said if child pornography is ever downloaded accidentally, the user needs to call authorities immediately. They may confiscate your computer, but it's better than the alternative.

Internet searches reveal a large number of complaints from people who say they've accidentally downloaded child pornography through Limewire.


I haven't used limewire for years, but I recall trying to DL'd first run movies & anime but getting mislabeled things all the time. I don't think the guy is lying, otherwise I don't feel he'd be pleading guilty in the hopes that he'd only get 3 years prison, 10 years probation, & be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life.

While I'm all for protecting children, I think "possession" in this sense is a bit much to charge him with. He was not the uploader & should be able to prove the file was supposed to be GGW & not CP. Also, by the admission of the FBI they KNOW he deleted it, should be able to tell how long he had it before he deleted it, & know he had no access to it. Unfortunately, what politician is going to want to take up this kids cause & relax CP laws?

So ya, forum perverts, should you unknowingly dl'd cp report it or you may find the FBI @ your door.


Edited, Dec 7th 2009 1:39am by Omegavegeta
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#2 Dec 07 2009 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
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I dunno, I think this is kind of dumb shit.

Luckily all the accidental **** I get is of age.

The Frighteners seems to be a commonly mis-titled download.
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#3 Dec 07 2009 at 2:26 AM Rating: Good
This is yet again a case of laws and laws and laws piling on to eachother, to royally fuck over anyone who comes in contact them. It'll continue to get worse too, seeing as nobody ever lost votes by being "tough" on sex criminals.

My heart goes out to the guy, there's not a whit he can do, and he's gonna be a social pariah for the rest of his life.

#4 Dec 07 2009 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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I'd be happy reporting accidental downloads of illegal stuff, except that it would be really hard losing my computer. I'm really not sure insurance policies cover that sort of thing. Ugh, and I have half my life on my computer. Not backed up. Which is stupid, but there you go. So I'd have to finally back up, sans illicit stuff, before I called the cops. So I wouldn't be happy at all.

Years ago I used to visit this site that had links to eclectic joke and fun stuff around the web. I had some fun hours browsing off that site. One day I visited it, and in two or three link hops was looking at thumbnails of purported real Snuff. They looked ickily real, and I left them alone. The next time I tried visiting that original joke link site, it had disappeared, and never came back.

#5 Dec 07 2009 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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Pleading guilty for 3.5 years means his lawyer is incompetent.



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Also, protip, hypothetically you could say your computer is rigged as a bomb for self defense purposes, and then it would be handled by the bomb squad. Which depending on local laws will either be technically legal, or still less than 20yrs. Or 3.5 years.

Hypothetically speaking.
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Pleading guilty for 3.5 years means his lawyer is incompetent.





Maybe the lawyer does not want to be associated with defending CP law infractors, even if it's his job and the defendant did not download it on purpose; in his eyes it is better to get the case closed A.S.A.P.
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Timelordwho wrote:
Pleading guilty for 3.5 years means his lawyer is incompetent.



Maybe the lawyer does not want to be associated with defending CP law infractors, even if it's his job and the defendant did not download it on purpose; in his eyes it is better to get the case closed A.S.A.P.


Right, incompetence.
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Timelordwho wrote:
Also, protip, hypothetically you could say your computer is rigged as a bomb for self defense purposes, and then it would be handled by the bomb squad. Which depending on local laws will either be technically legal, or still less than 20yrs. Or 3.5 years.

Hypothetically speaking.


Depends on if it was build as a normal bomb or as an anti-personal weapon, also it would probably depend on if you had a license to handle explosives.
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Shaowstrike wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Also, protip, hypothetically you could say your computer is rigged as a bomb for self defense purposes, and then it would be handled by the bomb squad. Which depending on local laws will either be technically legal, or still less than 20yrs. Or 3.5 years.

Hypothetically speaking.


Depends on if it was build as a normal bomb or as an anti-personal weapon, also it would probably depend on if you had a license to handle explosives.


But it's not a bomb.
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Timelordwho wrote:
Shaowstrike wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Also, protip, hypothetically you could say your computer is rigged as a bomb for self defense purposes, and then it would be handled by the bomb squad. Which depending on local laws will either be technically legal, or still less than 20yrs. Or 3.5 years.

Hypothetically speaking.


Depends on if it was build as a normal bomb or as an anti-personal weapon, also it would probably depend on if you had a license to handle explosives.


But it's not a bomb.


Right, it's not a bomb. Smiley: wink
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Shaowstrike wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Shaowstrike wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Also, protip, hypothetically you could say your computer is rigged as a bomb for self defense purposes, and then it would be handled by the bomb squad. Which depending on local laws will either be technically legal, or still less than 20yrs. Or 3.5 years.

Hypothetically speaking.


Depends on if it was build as a normal bomb or as an anti-personal weapon, also it would probably depend on if you had a license to handle explosives.


But it's not a bomb.


Right, it's not a bomb. Smiley: wink


Yep, it's a battery malfunction.
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#13 Dec 07 2009 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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The guy somehow couldn't find **** to stream on the internet so he was downloading Girls Gone Wild. That's his story?
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lolgaxe wrote:
The guy somehow couldn't find **** to stream on the internet so he was downloading Girls Gone Wild. That's his story?



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Pleading guilty for 3.5 years means his lawyer is incompetent.
The lawyer is a public defender.
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The guy somehow couldn't find **** to stream on the internet so he was downloading Girls Gone Wild. That's his story?


I have a friend who downloads ****, and I have no idea why. With all the streaming available, why risk the viruses? Ho hum.

When I was a lot younger (we're talking, like... 16?) I had a similar situation come up. I think I was using Napster then. I was freaked out when I saw that by "teen" they meant, like, 13 (or so I would imagine; age wasn't given). Shudder. Deleted that immediately. I guess I was lucky I never had the Feds look into it.

Also, Limewire? Ew. Limewire is how a couple of friends in college got busted for music downloads; not surprising that the Fed is also scanning downloads.
#17 Dec 07 2009 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
I think there's more to the story than we're being told. How did the FBI track him down? Was it a sting operation? Did he tell someone about it? I find it unbelievable that the FBI would dedicate any resources to tracking down a single accidental download by some innocent individual when there are oodles of real perverts out there raking in the CP by the gigabyte. Something doesn't add up.
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Sweetums wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Pleading guilty for 3.5 years means his lawyer is incompetent.
The lawyer is a public defender.


I guess I was being redundant.
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I think there's more to the story than we're being told. How did the FBI track him down? Was it a sting operation? Did he tell someone about it? I find it unbelievable that the FBI would dedicate any resources to tracking down a single accidental download by some innocent individual when there are oodles of real perverts out there raking in the CP by the gigabyte. Something doesn't add up.


I would imagine they have this one thread - Limewire - which they're pulling incessantly because it's a known quantity.

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Even that's kind of weird. Why track a download (presumably) labeled as "Girls Gone Wild" and chase this guy down? Aren't there enough people downloading "12yo has reel sex w 15yo bro loli"?
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Yeah, I agree; but for all I know, GGW is well known among pedOs as being a cover for said loli. Not gonna research it myself for fairly obvious reasons. Smiley: laugh

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The only thing I know about Girls Gone Wild is that they keep trying to distract me with breasts when I'm trying to watch late night stand up on comedy central, every once in a blue moon when I'm around a TV with cable.

Stupid breasts, getting in the way of my mirth.
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The only thing I know about Girls Gone Wild is that they keep trying to distract me with breasts when I'm trying to watch late night stand up on comedy central, every once in a blue moon when I'm around a TV with cable.

Stupid breasts, getting in the way of my mirth.
They're not even real breasts. Real breasts don't have stars for nipples.
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Sweetums wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
The only thing I know about Girls Gone Wild is that they keep trying to distract me with breasts when I'm trying to watch late night stand up on comedy central, every once in a blue moon when I'm around a TV with cable.

Stupid breasts, getting in the way of my mirth.
They're not even real breasts. Real breasts don't have stars for nipples.
Lest we forget...
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#25 Dec 07 2009 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, Limewire? Ew. Limewire is how a couple of friends in college got busted for music downloads; not surprising that the Fed is also scanning downloads.


That's because they were stupid and didn't turn off uploading. My freshman year in college our RA specifically told us at our first meeting that we weren't supposed to download stuff from the internet, and if we got caught our internet in our rooms would be shut off, but if we wanted to get away with it we just had to turn off uploading.

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I think there's more to the story than we're being told. How did the FBI track him down? Was it a sting operation? Did he tell someone about it? I find it unbelievable that the FBI would dedicate any resources to tracking down a single accidental download by some innocent individual when there are oodles of real perverts out there raking in the CP by the gigabyte. Something doesn't add up.


I totally agree. And I think it's completely bizarre that the lawyer (even if he is a crappy PD) defending this guy can't make a case if he really did delete the file shortly after watching it and realizing it was kiddie ****.
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bsphil wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
The only thing I know about Girls Gone Wild is that they keep trying to distract me with breasts when I'm trying to watch late night stand up on comedy central, every once in a blue moon when I'm around a TV with cable.

Stupid breasts, getting in the way of my mirth.
They're not even real breasts. Real breasts don't have stars for nipples.
Lest we forget...
My point still stands
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