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We shall see then. I have rejected another similarly stupid one. What do you think will happen?

Really?

Heavy flooding in Japan.

bsphil,



Distorting the meaning of bible passages to conform to your modern sense of right and wrong is frowned upon the basis of the conservative movement.

May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.

1 O God, whom I praise,
do not remain silent,

2 For wicked and deceitful men
have opened their mouths against me;
they have spoken against me with lying tongues.

3 With words of hatred they surround me;
they attack me without cause.

4 In return for my friendship they accuse me,
but I am a man of prayer.

5 They repay me evil for good,
and hatred for my friendship.

6 Appoint an evil man to oppose him;
let an accuser stand at his right hand.

7 When he is tried, let him be found guilty,
and may his prayers condemn him.

8 May his days be few;
may another take his place of leadership.

9 May his children be fatherless
and his wife a widow.

10 May his children be wandering beggars;
may they be driven from their ruined homes.

11 May a creditor seize all he has;
may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

12 May no one extend kindness to him
or take pity on his fatherless children.

13 May his descendants be cut off,
their names blotted out from the next generation.

14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord;
may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.

15 May their sins always remain before the Lord,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

So if you ever see a fundie wearing the "Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8" t-shirt, you can walk up to them and tell them they've just admitted they are a lying, wicked hypocrite who curses against a good man. Psalm 109:2 says so!

King David, who this verse is attributed to, was talking about himself as the leader.

The rest of the verse was what they (the wicked people) were saying about him.

Some versions include the implied quotation marks, but since that punctuation didn't exist in the original Hebrew, other versions leave it out. Such as this one.

Unless 2000 years of Biblical scholars got it as wrong as the fundies quoting this did.

No, it is that I choose to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not intentionally foolish, but I merely have great psychological trauma in conceiving of ethics, and can therefore not understand how it is that what you say is an implication of what I say, and a contradiction.

]Simple logic doesn't dictate our ethical status. Futility is no reason not to try. If it is a reason not to try, then the same simple logic tells us that we should have mass self-termination before that point of existence.

You don't ask God to do evil things. You ask God to allow evil things to happen to bad people. I'd explain the rationale for requesting it in this way, but you'd have to actually have an understanding of ancient Hebrew culture.