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#1 Nov 24 2009 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't have much to add but I thought this was nifty anyway.

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This week in New York, the American Museum of Natural History unveiled something never before seen: an 11-by-4-foot tapestry made completely of spider silk.

Weavers in Madagascar took four years to make it, and the museum says there's no other like it in the world.

It's now in a glass case at the museum. The color is a radiant gold — the natural color of the golden orb-weaving spider, from the Nephila genus, one that's found in several parts of the world.
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The task of silking a spider starts with a small machine — designed centuries ago when the first attempts to silk spiders were begun — that holds the spider down.

"The spiders are harnessed ... held down in a delicate way," Godley says, "so you need people to do this who are very tactile so the spiders are not harmed. So there's a chain of about 80 people who go out every morning at four o'clock, collect spiders, we get them in by 10 o'clock. They're in boxes, they're numbered, and then as they get silked, about 20 minutes later, they get released back into nature."


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This cruel tapestry took four years to make, and apparently there’s no other like it in the world. The tapestry is gold because that’s the natural color of the golden orb-weaving spider, the spiders who spun the piece.
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I mean, wow. How superfluous- to exploit a million little animals for a project simply because, “it’s never been done before.”
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We all know the track record regarding treatment of animals in the clothing industry. The human variety has been abused for years slaving for poor wages in deplorable conditions to make high fashion clothes. Furry animals have been skinned alive for their contributions.
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Peers and Godley say they spent a half-million dollars of their own money to make the tapestry. Who’s money did they want to use? They spent $500,000 of their own money to exploit another living, feeling animal. How can people continue to support the exploitation of any animal (saying the tapestry is “amazing” and “an extraordinary accomplishment”), and all the while fighting to protect others? Exploitation is exploitation, regardless of species.

I could make this a poll but if any of you equate this to spider slavery, I'm happier not knowing about it.

Finally, a detail of the tapestry:
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#2 Nov 24 2009 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
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I still hate spiders.

But I like weavers!
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#3 Nov 24 2009 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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This reminds me of the silkworm's tale of woe in James and the Giant Peach

So like, is that tapestry stronger than steel cord, or am I thinking the wrong kind of spider?

#4 Nov 24 2009 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
So like, is that tapestry stronger than steel cord, or am I thinking the wrong kind of spider?

Good question. I want some spider silk Kelvar armor.


(which I guess wouldn't be Kevlar if it was made of spider silk but you get the idea)
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#5 Nov 24 2009 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Old story is old.

I remember seeing it linked somewhere on Allakhazam a few months ago. Looks pretty awesome, though.
#6 Nov 24 2009 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Old story is old.

Until I post it. Then it's reborn and full of awesome and win.

Also, I'm going to karma kamp you back to sage.

Even more also, like edit also, I did an "all forum" search for "golden orb" "tapestry" and "spiders" (3 searches) and had no returns on this story. So eat a **** flavored **** filled with **** sauce.

Edited, Nov 24th 2009 4:00pm by Jophiel
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#7 Nov 24 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Old story is old.

Until I post it. Then it's reborn and full of awesome and win.

Also, I'm going to karma kamp you back to sage.


My friend threatened me with the same today, haha :D
#8 Nov 24 2009 at 4:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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That is pretty freaking amazing. And yes, I laughed at the angry spider hugger. They're not harmed and they're released into the wild after 20 minutes of "servitude", so whatever the fUCk.
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#9 Nov 24 2009 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Old story is old.

Until I post it. Then it's reborn and full of awesome and win.

Also, I'm going to karma kamp you back to sage.


My friend threatened me with the same today, haha :D


I'm 99% sure that none of my friends would know what karma camping is.
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#10 Nov 24 2009 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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I'm 99% sure that none of my friends would know what karma camping is.


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#11 Nov 24 2009 at 4:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does the tapestry stick to the wall on its own?

Or does it just get annoyingly stuck on the museum goers' faces as they walk by?

#12 Nov 24 2009 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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So like, is that tapestry stronger than steel cord, or am I thinking the wrong kind of spider?


I think it is any spider's silk that is as strong as steel. I did a bit of research on it a while back for an assignment, there no was indication that silk from different spiders had different strength.

Of specific silk types though, it is supposed to be dragline silk(silk forming the spokes) And aciniform silk (Silk for wrapping prey) that are a strong as steel, with aciniform being even tougher than dragline.

Good news for spider haters, they are working on ways to make the silk without spiders. Bad news for PETA, it might still involve the use of animals.
#13 Nov 24 2009 at 4:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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The tapestry looks pretty nice now, but give it a couple of weeks and when its all covered in dead and dying bugs it wont look so darn spiffy.
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#14 Nov 24 2009 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Bad news for PETA, it might still involve the use of animals.


Dude even I can't get very riled up when they get released into the wild after 20 minutes.

Only reason I could stoke the fire is if they were lying.
#15 Nov 24 2009 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, the GMO way of getting spider silk protein is genetically modified goat's milk.

I think it is a very cool work of art, and it's probably soft to the touch as well.

The spiders have it better than their silkworm counterparts. Those are killed as part of the silk retrieval process.

Eh, silk is a ***** to care for anyway. Polyester ftw!
#16 Nov 24 2009 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Dude even I can't get very riled up when they get released into the wild after 20 minutes.


Yeah, but you aren't PETA level crazy are you?
#17 Nov 24 2009 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, but you aren't PETA level crazy are you?


Self-reports about one's own level of crazy are kinda inherently flawed.
#18 Nov 24 2009 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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Could you post the recipe for that?



I'm sure Varus would be interested.
#19 Nov 24 2009 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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Beutiful!

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#20 Nov 24 2009 at 5:54 PM Rating: Default
This is absolutely great... I never know that spider silk can be like this.. brilliant...
#21 Nov 24 2009 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Die spiders!!! DIEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#22 Nov 24 2009 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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So like, is that tapestry stronger than steel cord, or am I thinking the wrong kind of spider?


I think it is any spider's silk that is as strong as steel. I did a bit of research on it a while back for an assignment, there no was indication that silk from different spiders had different strength.

Of specific silk types though, it is supposed to be dragline silk(silk forming the spokes) And aciniform silk (Silk for wrapping prey) that are a strong as steel, with aciniform being even tougher than dragline.

Good news for spider haters, they are working on ways to make the silk without spiders. Bad news for PETA, it might still involve the use of animals.

variation in genetic material from one species of spider to another would most likely also influence the amino acid sequence used in the proteins of silk fibroin. Because the strength of silk is so dependent on it's structural qualities (interlocking beta sheets) It's almost guaranteed that any variation in amino acid sequence can also lead to a different level of bonding affinities between the sheets.


#23 Nov 24 2009 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I bet it was this guy.

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#25 Nov 24 2009 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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I dont like spiders much but how could you not love this guy???

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So cute!
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#26 Nov 24 2009 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
I don't have much to add but I thought this was nifty anyway.

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[quote]This week in New York, the American Museum of Natural History unveiled something never before seen: an 11-by-4-foot tapestry made completely of spider silk.
Wouldn't ya love to wrap that around your nekkid body?
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