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#152 Nov 17 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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What our enemies are seeing is a waffling president who seems afraid to make a difficult decision.


No, that is what you see. You don't know what our enemies see because you won't talk to them.
#153 Nov 17 2009 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
I dunno, I would consider Varrus to be an enemy of America himself.
#154 Nov 17 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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But wait I thought we went at this alone? Isn't that what liberals told us the prior 8yrs?

You're thinking of Iraq. Afghanistan was the one where the world was with us and shocked at the attack upon New York.
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#155REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kavek,
#156 Nov 17 2009 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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How long? How long does he need to consider the options and make a decision? Before the election we were waiting on that.

Again, this would be the second or third troop level increase under Obama's presidency.
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#157REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 10:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pensive,
#158 Nov 17 2009 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Kavek,

And I consider you to be an enemy of freedom.


Well, I do think that certain freedoms are bad. The freedom to nuke Chicago, for example.
#159 Nov 17 2009 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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No, that is what you see. You don't know what our enemies see because you won't talk to them.


And you believe what they say. What's worse listening to a liar or just assuming since he's lied before he's going to continue lying? Liberals have a tendency to believe homicidal dictators over common sense and what they see with their own eyes.


Yep, Liberals like that Chamberlain fellow.

Who was a conservative.

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#160 Nov 17 2009 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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And you believe what they say.


I can't believe what they say because I am not given the opportunity. I don't get to talk to them either. It is impossible for me to agree with "them" because "they" don't have a voice.

That's the problem you @#%^ing idiot. You don't know anything about what a terrorist would think. You have a perception and a guess. If "we" knew, or would even entertain the notion of being able to know, even just investigating the question itself, instead of taking it as a foregone conclusion, you would be able to make a decision about what to do with "terrorists" instead of imagining what terrorists are, without even meeting one, and then retroactively deciding when someone becomes one.

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What's worse listening to a liar or just assuming since he's lied before he's going to continue lying?


This question is meaningless; either is totally impossible right now. The liars at which you're vaguely gesturing haven't had the chance to lie...

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Liberals have a tendency to believe homicidal dictators over common sense and what they see with their own eyes.


You can't see anything with your own eyes; you refuse to look. Every instantiation of political realism is a willful ignorance, and it's fucking pathetic and nauseating that you would dare try to pass it off as realistic or common sense when you have never even tried to look at reality due to the fear and loathing you have about your own power, and the sad and depressing acts of pre-emptive neutering you perform on your own ideals, with your only salvation as blissful ignorance, enabled through the ever increasing reliance and faith in self-denial.

Edited, Nov 17th 2009 11:38am by Pensive
#161REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 10:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kavek,
#162 Nov 17 2009 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Kavek,

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Well, I do think that certain freedoms are bad


Oh hey! I can take quotes out of context too!
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#163REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 10:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pensive,
#164 Nov 17 2009 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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But wait I thought we went at this alone? Isn't that what liberals told us the prior 8yrs?


That was Iraq, hon.


Sorry, covered by Joph.

Edited, Nov 17th 2009 11:54am by Annabella
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#165 Nov 17 2009 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
What's quite amusing, in a sick sort of way, is that the equivalent of varrus in countries like Iran or Pakistan are exactly the kind of people he calls "Terrorists".

Seriously. Let's flip it over for a second.

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Every time a US soldier Muslim is murdered by a radical muslim US Soldier you've heard their voice. Every time a radical muslim US Soldier goes on a killing spree in the US Iraq you've heard their voice. That you choose to ignore these voices is your problem


could've been said by Mullah Ohmar.

Osama could've said:

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F*ck the rest of the world if they won't deal with the kind of mentality that keeps on creating sickos like Hassan Blackwater . Explain to me how burning a muslim US Soldier who has murdered numerous civlians with is "cruel and unusual"?

We need to send a message to every would be muslim terrorist US Soldier that if they're caught murdering innocent, unarmed, civilians they will be denied their place in heaven.

What's f*cked up is you people show more emotion at this solution than at this f*ck who murdered 14 and wounded 30 others.

You're more concerned about upsetting people across the world than protecting US citizens Muslims.

If potential islamic terrorists US Soldiers were worried that being buried with pigs blood would prevent them from reaching heaven shouldn't we consider taking this from them?

I'M STILL WAITING FOR A LIBERAL SOLUTION TO THE CONTINUED ISLAMIC TERRORISTS IMPERIALIST FORCES THAT DO THIS!!!

Putting them in jail and giving them 3 squares and cot isn't preventing anything.


Surely I can't be the only seeing this. It's the same poison with different labels. You rail on about islamic terrorists killing Americans, they rail on about US soldiers killing Muslims. Both of you call for blood in response. Neither of you care about the civilians who will be caught in the cross-fire as a consequence. Both of you pretend to "love" your country/religion, and both of you pretend this is a form of "defense" against foreign forces that want to invade you and take away your way of life. Wake the fuck up, Varus. Nationalistics, war-mongering, violent, hateful people lump everyone else in the same category are the same everywhere. Had you been born in Afghanistan, you'd be a Taliban. It's so ******* obvious even you can see it...
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#166 Nov 17 2009 at 11:03 AM Rating: Good
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Insert something about Red only seeing what he's seeing because he's French
(I see it too, Red. It's kinda sad to be honest. Goes to show that Varrus is blindly following someone.)
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#167 Nov 17 2009 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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BS...Saddam lied, Adhmajinahad is lying.


Because all "Arabs" lie, right? ;-)
#168REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 11:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Red,
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Wake the @#%^ up, Varus. Nationalistics, war-mongering, violent, hateful people lump everyone else in the same category are the same everywhere. Had you been born in Afghanistan, you'd be a Taliban.


What is war-mongering? What does that even mean? You're as hateful as anyone on this site. Every time you write something you seem intent on derpriving americans of their freedoms.

Thick.
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#170 Nov 17 2009 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
What is war-mongering? What does that even mean? You're as hateful as anyone on this site. Every time you write something you seem intent on derpriving americans of their freedoms.
None of this meant anything.
#171 Nov 17 2009 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wake the @#%^ up, Varus. Nationalistics, war-mongering, violent, hateful people lump everyone else in the same category are the same everywhere. Had you been born in Afghanistan, you'd be a Taliban.


What is war-mongering? What does that even mean?


Main Entry: war·mon·ger
Pronunciation: \ˈwȯr-ˌməŋ-gər, -ˌmäŋ-\
Function: noun
Date: 1817
: one who urges or attempts to stir up war
— war·mon·ger·ing \-g(ə-)riŋ\ noun
#172REDACTED, Posted: Nov 17 2009 at 11:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Catt,
#173 Nov 17 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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What is war-mongering? What does that even mean? You're as hateful as anyone on this site. Every time you write something you seem intent on derpriving americans of their freedoms.


The only freedom I wanna deprive anyone of, are Christmas carols, in shops, in November, in the UK.

The rest is all yours...
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#174 Nov 17 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
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Varrus is blindly following someone


LMAO...that's hillarious coming from someone who supports Obama.


Who're you to make blind assumptions of who I follow politically?
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#175 Nov 17 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
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Varrus is blindly following someone


LMAO...that's hillarious coming from someone who supports Obama. Obama lies to the american people about unemployment not going over 8% if his stimulus passes. Of course it passes and unemployment is over 10% and you still believe his lies about socialized govn healthcare.

Obama tells you govn healthcare won't increase your taxes. You people so blindly follow Obama that you're willing to completely ignore his history, his associates, everything if it means you might go against the all mighty Obama.

A. The unemployment figure was an estimate, which means it can't be a lie.

B. I want health care reform, no matter how it happens.
#176 Nov 17 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
What is war-mongering? What does that even mean? You're as hateful as anyone on this site. Every time you write something you seem intent on derpriving americans of their freedoms.


The only freedom I wanna deprive anyone of, are Christmas carols, in shops, in November, in the UK.

The rest is all yours...

and in the US, I'd like them to wait until Black Friday, if at all possible.
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