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#77 Nov 16 2009 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
Atomicflea wrote:
trickybeck wrote:

I find most of these formalities insulting to women, but maybe that's just me.
How?


A lot of them can be viewed as insinuating that women are incapable of doing anything for themselves, as most of them consist of men doing stuff for women that they are perfectly capable of doing themselves. I can understand why Trickybeck feels that way, and I agree on a lot of them, but it also depends on the context of the relationship.
#78 Nov 16 2009 at 9:32 PM Rating: Good
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Who cares really? None of these are categorical. Talk with the partner and determine what the other person digs. She wants door opened? Awesome. Doesn't want ordering food? Okay sure.

Then again, most of these mannerisms rely on not talking.

Silly @#%^s and your cults of manners.

Edited, Nov 16th 2009 10:35pm by Pensive
#79 Nov 17 2009 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
Who cares really? None of these are categorical. Talk with the partner and determine what the other person digs. She wants door opened? Awesome. Doesn't want ordering food? Okay sure.

Then again, most of these mannerisms rely on not talking.

Silly @#%^s and your cults of manners.


Way to be a killjoy, Mr Let's-talk-about-stuff-like-adults-instead-of-assuming-everything-and-then-wondering-why-the-relationship-breaks-down.

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#80 Nov 17 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
Atomicflea wrote:
trickybeck wrote:

I find most of these formalities insulting to women, but maybe that's just me.
How?


A lot of them can be viewed as insinuating that women are incapable of doing anything for themselves, as most of them consist of men doing stuff for women that they are perfectly capable of doing themselves. I can understand why Trickybeck feels that way, and I agree on a lot of them, but it also depends on the context of the relationship.



Delivery is everything. All I can really say.

I can do the same "helpful" gesture with a woman or man and can make it both humble or condescending. If condescending is all you can muster, then the problems isn't exactly the gestures themselves.

There's a clear difference between asking to pay the restaurant bill because you just want to bring a smile to everyone's face and wanting to pay the bill because you feel your peers used all their money to buy coke.

Edited, Nov 17th 2009 1:52pm by Exodus
#81 Nov 17 2009 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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trickybeck wrote:
Ranzera wrote:
The only one on that list that I've found myself doing would be the meal ordering but that highly depends on the situation and girl. If she tells me what she wants and seems kinda shy about ordering it, I'll go ahead and order for her. If not, I won't. That really only applies to fast food too, I can't recall ever doing that at a sit down place.

Shy about ordering fast food? Do you date girls from feudal Japan or something?



They were japanophiles... so kinda?
#82 Nov 17 2009 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Ranzera wrote:
They were japanophiles... so kinda?

Were they confused when the menu didn't offer "oh niggery?"

Edited, Nov 17th 2009 3:50pm by Allegory
#83 Nov 17 2009 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
I find most of these formalities insulting to women, but maybe that's just me.
How?

Quiet, dollface. Men are talking.
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#84 Nov 17 2009 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
Atomicflea wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
I find most of these formalities insulting to women, but maybe that's just me.
How?

Quiet, dollface. Men are talking.
That's three days out of the box.
#85 Nov 19 2009 at 2:41 AM Rating: Good
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Most of my chivalrous activities are second nature. I don't even think about them. Open doors, walk curbside (which is a pain in the *** since my woman wanders around and like walking in the middle of parking lots or off a sidewalk), walk in front of her going down stairs, behind going up stairs, or to the side if she has an arm or a hand. I usually order for her but not decide for her, big difference.


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A lot of them can be viewed as insinuating that women are incapable of doing anything for themselves, as most of them consist of men doing stuff for women that they are perfectly capable of doing themselves. I can understand why Trickybeck feels that way, and I agree on a lot of them, but it also depends on the context of the relationship.
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#86 Nov 19 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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Personally, I'd like to take her on a date and push her face first into a ditch.
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