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#152 Nov 04 2009 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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You could have gone straight from reading my initial post to addressing my point and agreeing with me in 1 post.


I disagree with your initial post. I think executing chavs is a horrible idea and you're a @#%^ing moron for thinking that it's a good idea. I agreed later on on a separate issue (involving a made-up scenario, not your original point). Again, you're acting like a moron.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 3:51pm by LockeColeMA


Um, are you being serious?

You seriously thought I wanted to execute chavs? I mean I know sarcasm doesn't come across well on the Internet but I write a post about baby rapists and murderers and tag on 'Or chavs' at the end and you think I'm serious? That's why you acted like you did?

Wow. Just wow...


Looks like you forget your original post. You want "street scum" to get the same treatment. You say nothing about rapists. In your next post (or a few down?) you mention chavs, and according to the definition, they are street scum. I just call 'em how I see 'em.
#153 Nov 04 2009 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Nevermind.

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#154 Nov 04 2009 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I'm not sure how lowering ourselves to the same standard as a murderer is a good idea. If we have the blood of "baby rapists and murderers" on our hands, we still have blood on our hands.

And that sh*t stains, man. It stains your soul.


Totally, but he'll hear what he wants to hear.

He doesn't seem capable of realize that he is endorsing murder: "It's punishment dammit! And I have the right (through the state)to murder people who murder other people." It's like an orgy of murder, an sanguine feast orchestrated through the arms of the state.

As for me? I think if I ever wanted to murder someone, then I should have to do it myself, and not using any proxy. Why not? If you truly can't contain your feelings of vengeance or hate required to want to murder someone someone, then, instead of depending on the legal system to do it for you so that you can sleep at night safe and sound with no guilt, do it yourself, and, legally, suffer the consequences. The consequences of which should NOT be another murder, but rather an exile from society.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 4:26pm by Pensive
#155 Nov 04 2009 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I'm not sure how lowering ourselves to the same standard as a murderer is a good idea. If we have the blood of "baby rapists and murderers" on our hands, we still have blood on our hands.

And that sh*t stains, man. It stains your soul.


And your jeans.


Psh. Maybe yours. I'm a ninja, though, so my jeans are all black.

Or, they would be, if you could see me.
#156 Nov 04 2009 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
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I don't want to live in a country where paedophiles gets beheaded and crucified. That diminishes us all. And personally and professionally I think I've seen more of my fair share of the effects of childhood sex abuse.

And you really can't eliminate the costs of the death penalty unless you want to deprive people to their right to appeal in court--and boy, I really don't want to live in that country.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 4:27pm by Annabella
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#157 Nov 04 2009 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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It's my fault for expecting you to act like decent human beings. I take total responsibility for this thread. Sorry everyone.
You're advocating for beheadings and crucification, yet accusing others of indecent humaness because they don't talk nice to you on a forum?

Smiley: rolleyes Get a perspective


I have a perfect perspective. That's why I believe that people who commit the most heinous of crimes deserve a fitting punishment. Raping and murdering children fits that bill.

What has that got to do with ********* on a board attacking people for no reason? You could see why the concept of a fitting punishment for anti social ********* would frighten a few of them.

LockeColeMA wrote:
Looks like you forget your original post. You want "street scum" to get the same treatment. You say nothing about rapists. In your next post (or a few down?) you mention chavs, and according to the definition, they are street scum. I just call 'em how I see 'em.


Again, if you can't detect sarcasm not really my fault. Although certain street scum who do things like kick people to death or into a coma for laughs and who video it with their mobile phone and upload it for kicks to show off do fit the bill.

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As much fun as it is for you to point out how wrong jtftaru is, and I'm sure you know this, it is pointless.

You can't change affective attitudes with reason. It's very clear that jtftaru made an emotional choice about what he thinks should be don't to child rapist and then invented reasons after the fact to justify that choice. The reasons he gives are completely irrelevant. Proving someone's justifications wrong only lead to new justifications.


Calling people 'wrong' because they don't agree with your ignorant opinion doesn't reflect well on you.

If you'd bothered to read between the posts of crap on here you'd have seen that in the end, most of the people you are talking to actually agreed with me. So your comments apply to them too. They are just keyboard warrior ********* who have to disagree and fight for the sake of it first.

You cannot also call irrelevant rambling 'reason' which is why most of the first 50 posts in this thread are mostly total nonsense as they don't even respond to the point I made.

If you personally don't believe that a sick, heinous crime such as raping and murdering babies is deserving of an equal punishment, that is your opinion.

It doesn't make you right but you are entitled to your opinion. Unlike intolerant people like you, it doesn't bother me if people don't have the same opinion as me, as you would have noticed if you'd read the whole thread and seen me respect those who actually answered my point but disagreed with me.

And my choice was certainly not based on emotion. It's based on logic and a sense of fairness. Emotion would only come into it if someone close to me was killed like that.
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#158 Nov 04 2009 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I don't want to live in a country where paedophiles gets beheaded and crucified. That diminishes us all. And personally and professionally I think I've seen more of my fair share of the effects of childhood sex abuse.

And you really can't eliminate the costs of the death penalty unless you want to deprive people to their right to appeal in court--and boy, I really don't want to live in that country.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 4:27pm by Annabella


I don't agree with you but you're entitled to your opinion.
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#159 Nov 04 2009 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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jtftaru wrote:
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I don't want to live in a country where paedophiles gets beheaded and crucified. That diminishes us all. And personally and professionally I think I've seen more of my fair share of the effects of childhood sex abuse.

And you really can't eliminate the costs of the death penalty unless you want to deprive people to their right to appeal in court--and boy, I really don't want to live in that country.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 4:27pm by Annabella


I don't agree with you but you're entitled to your opinion.


That's because you're a hateful human being.

Mr Taru.I don't know where the hate comes from. It could come from being molested as a child, from having a family member murdered, or from whatever ideology people fooled you into believing was right.

It is not ethically sound to murder a person, ever. The only exception, not ethically, but existentially, when I could get on board with murder, is if you do it yourself. Think about what goes on in a murder. You, a subjective being, remove another subjective being, like you are, from our world. That hurts us, and it hurts our entire world of ideal.
#160 Nov 04 2009 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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jtftaru wrote:

Again, if you can't detect sarcasm not really my fault. Although certain street scum who do things like kick people to death or into a coma for laughs and who video it with their mobile phone and upload it for kicks to show off do fit the bill.


Good to see you've backpedaled from "Read what I said, idiots!" to "Uh, so, yeah... that's what I said, but, uh, it wasn't what I meant. Shame on you for reading it right but not GETTING it!"

High class Smiley: lol
#161 Nov 04 2009 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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One point - the method of execution is not the big deal for me. The beheading and crucifixion may work in Middle Eastern countries. If people from Western countries think that is too uncivilised and would prefer the chair or an injection that is fine.

It is also obvious that certain people on here take things as literally as a robot. I am well aware that in the UK (and the USA) there is no serious chance of us having beheadings but as I say, if it works for the people in the Middle East then fine with me.

If you are just saying you don't like the method of execution but still believe in a form of death sentence if it deserved then I agree with that.

I have no desire to go to a beheading in a country. The fact I think baby rapists and the like deserve a death sentence does not in any way indicate I want to be there to see it carried out, nor have I ever said anything like that.

So stop with the tenuous snuff comparisons. I simply believe that someone who has committed such crimes in cold blood has forfeited his right to live in a society and that life imprisonment is not harsh enough.

Some examples of people who deserve this punishment are baby rapists, murderers and Chavs Asylum regulars.
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#162 Nov 04 2009 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
That's because you're a hateful human being.


Having a sick, hateful piece of human scum like you call someone else hateful has about as much impact as Al Sharpton calling someone a race card player.

I respect other people's opinions, I don't attack people who don't think the same way I do and I'm the one preaching being nice to people on here.

You on the other hand fit every stereotype of the nasty hateful message board ******** who can't bear the fact peope don't agree with whatever stupid thing he says.

And again, in case you missed it, most of your comrades agreed with me so your comments are aimed at them too.

LockeColeMA wrote:
jtftaru wrote:

Again, if you can't detect sarcasm not really my fault. Although certain street scum who do things like kick people to death or into a coma for laughs and who video it with their mobile phone and upload it for kicks to show off do fit the bill.


Good to see you've backpedaled from "Read what I said, idiots!" to "Uh, so, yeah... that's what I said, but, uh, it wasn't what I meant. Shame on you for reading it right but not GETTING it!"

High class Smiley: lol


The fact you screwed up and took something literally and had to have it explained it to you doesn't make anyone else 'back-pedal'.

If you had an ounce of intelligence in the first place you wouldn't need things explaining to you that everyone else understood first time.
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#163 Nov 04 2009 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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If we extend the death penalty to those who confess, what we're really doing is sponsoring suicide.

Surely even our dear mooglfUcker friend jftaru wasn't so damaged by his mother's prenatal drinking that he fails to grasp the hypocrisy of a system which forbids doctors to lend a trained hand but which allows some guy with a degree in criminology from the University of Phoenix to provide such assistance.


If there are eye-witnesses and video proof then you don't really have much of a choice do you in confessing?

Many criminals will confess and show (fake) remorse to get a weaker sentence. Many, if forced to confess due to over-whelming evidence will simply try to get their lawyer to find a loophole in the law so they get a lighter sentence.


Look, witnesses and documentation of the crime don't matter. I could rape a baby with a machete on-stage during halftime of the Super Bowl, with Bruce Springsteen over-shooting his knee-slide and crotch-ramming my shins just to ensure everyone in the world sees it, and it doesn't necessarily make me a good candidate for execution, nor even guilty, for that matter.

You see, simple friend, in the world exists things called mitigating and aggravating circumstances. I may be a raving lunatic, a paranoid-schizoid-borderline-homosexual with a machete and that baby's ******** might be the gateway to hell in my twisted mind, and thus I am but a servant of Our Great Mechanical Lord Analbang when I plunge the cold blade clean up through the little fUck's ***-opening and out his mouth-hole.

Oh man, I hope you can get my point, despite the obvious fit of ************ I just threw you into.

Should we be executing everyone, without exception, based solely on the presence of irrefutable evidence of despicable acts? Nope, we shouldn't, and until the rest of you have cameras implanted in your brains in order to read your thoughts, like I do, we'll never really be safe.
#164 Nov 04 2009 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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No, the method of execution is irrelevant. On that we can agree.

I am against the death penalty for a lot of reasons, some of which have been enumerated already. It tends to be imposed disproportionately on the poor and less-advantaged, for example. I see no reason for that to be different here than in Saudi Arabia or anywhere else.

Far from being a deterrent, it actually tends to make violent criminals more likely to kill their victims in order to eliminate witnesses.

But aside from that, I am against the imposition of a death penalty at all. As stated previously, it diminishes the state that imposes it. It pollutes the social and political discourse. It does stain us.

I'd consider its use for hypersensitive internet trolls, though.
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#166 Nov 04 2009 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Look, witnesses and documentation of the crime don't matter. I could rape a baby with a machete on-stage during halftime of the Super Bowl, with Bruce Springsteen over-shooting his knee-slide and crotch-ramming my shins just to ensure everyone in the world sees it, and it doesn't necessarily make me a good candidate for execution, nor even guilty, for that matter.

You see, simple friend, in the world exists things called mitigating and aggravating circumstances. I may be a raving lunatic, a paranoid-schizoid-borderline-homosexual with a machete and that baby's ******** might be the gateway to hell in my twisted mind, and thus I am but a servant of Our Great Mechanical Lord Analbang when I plunge the cold blade clean up through the little fUck's ***-opening and out his mouth-hole.


Or you could have no excuse at all which is the only type of person I am talking about.

Unfortunately, as your type keep proving you aren't actually fond of responding to what people say, but what you want them to say.

For example:

What I actually say - I think someone who commits cold blooded murder of a child should be executed.

What you hear - OMG! YOU WANT TO KILL EVERYONE EVEN IF THEY ONLY HAVE OUTSTANDING PARKING TICKETS! AND YOU LOVE IT AND YOU WANT TO WRITHE NAKED IN THEIR BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As such, even though I do like your avatar, I have to formally dismiss you as a pointless ****.

Sorry.
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#167 Nov 04 2009 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Or we could just abolish all crime, and make it so that nobody wants to commit a crime ever. Wouldn't that be even better?
#168 Nov 04 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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What I actually say - I think someone who commits cold blooded murder of a child should be executed.

What you hear - OMG! YOU WANT TO KILL EVERYONE EVEN IF THEY ONLY HAVE OUTSTANDING PARKING TICKETS! AND YOU LOVE IT AND YOU WANT TO WRITHE NAKED IN THEIR BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I was having trouble seeing how you got that from his post. But then I remembered you're a blithering **** who has the IQ of a doorknob, and I was able to understand how.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 5:33pm by Deadgye
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#169 Nov 04 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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What I actually say - I think someone who commits cold blooded murder of a child should be executed.


What I'm saying - It's never, ever that simple, except in the minds of simpletons.

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jtftaru wrote:

The fact you screwed up and took something literally and had to have it explained it to you doesn't make anyone else 'back-pedal'.
That doesn't even make sense (and not just grammatically).
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#171 Nov 04 2009 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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No, the method of execution is irrelevant. On that we can agree.

I am against the death penalty for a lot of reasons, some of which have been enumerated already. It tends to be imposed disproportionately on the poor and less-advantaged, for example. I see no reason for that to be different here than in Saudi Arabia or anywhere else.

Far from being a deterrent, it actually tends to make violent criminals more likely to kill their victims in order to eliminate witnesses.

But aside from that, I am against the imposition of a death penalty at all. As stated previously, it diminishes the state that imposes it. It pollutes the social and political discourse. It does stain us.

I'd consider its use for hypersensitive internet trolls, though.


You were doing so well up until that last line. So near, yet so far...

As for hyper-sensitivity, seeing that you post among people who will tell others to go and die in a fire if they see someone write something about muffins they don't agree with, I'd have to agree with you.
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#172 Nov 04 2009 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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No, the method of execution is irrelevant. On that we can agree.

I am against the death penalty for a lot of reasons, some of which have been enumerated already. It tends to be imposed disproportionately on the poor and less-advantaged, for example. I see no reason for that to be different here than in Saudi Arabia or anywhere else.

Far from being a deterrent, it actually tends to make violent criminals more likely to kill their victims in order to eliminate witnesses.

But aside from that, I am against the imposition of a death penalty at all. As stated previously, it diminishes the state that imposes it. It pollutes the social and political discourse. It does stain us.

I'd consider its use for hypersensitive internet trolls, though.


You were doing so well up until that last line. So near, yet so far...

As for hyper-sensitivity, seeing that you post among people who will tell others to go and die in a fire if they see someone write something about muffins they don't agree with, I'd have to agree with you.


It's funny to watch you judge people for how they respond to you, when you are responding in the exact same way.
#173 Nov 04 2009 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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What I actually say - I think someone who commits cold blooded murder of a child should be executed.

What you hear - OMG! YOU WANT TO KILL EVERYONE EVEN IF THEY ONLY HAVE OUTSTANDING PARKING TICKETS! AND YOU LOVE IT AND YOU WANT TO WRITHE NAKED IN THEIR BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I was having trouble seeing how you got that from his post. But then I remembered you're a blithering **** who has the IQ of a doorknob, and I was able to understand how.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 5:33pm by Deadgye


Coming from someone whose vocabulary is so small he is only able to have a meaningful conversation via the medium of cat memes, that really doesn't mean much.

If you'd looked earlier you'd have seen that he's written a number of posts. In an earlier one he talks about me becoming a beast and being obsessed with vengeance when that simply isn't true.

Like I said, people are replying to voices in their heads or what they want to believe not what they see.

Usually that is a metaphor but with BT, there probably ARE actual voices in his head.

And once again, I'd point out that by the end of the first page, most of the ********* who were spamming at the start of the thread had agreed with me.

So your asinine comments refer to them too.
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#175 Nov 04 2009 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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jtftaru

ESAD. No-one agrees with you outside of the voices in your spleen.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
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The fact you screwed up and took something literally and had to have it explained it to you doesn't make anyone else 'back-pedal'.
That doesn't even make sense (and not just grammatically).


Let the anger go. If you've been sitting there for hours humiliated because you tried to be clever before and kept making typos which I pointed out then learn to control your rage and you'll type better. Don't take it out on me.

You can't even mimic someone properly. When your typo was removed your sentence made no sense because the words were wrong too. If you removed this typo, you have a plain English sentence. You should have put (just grammatically).

Quit while you're behind and go to bed.
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