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#102 Nov 04 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, let's say hypothetically that we DID get 100% proof. Do you then consider the death penalty appropriate? I get the impression that certain people here, even if they had 100% proof would still fight to have a baby rapist or murderer kept alive. I think this is morally wrong, not to mention a drain on the tax payer.


It's never appropriate, even with infallible proof of guilt.

Put your sticky little baby hand in mine and I'll tell you why, taru-friend: You don't best beasts by becoming one yourself. Pretty simple basis for my own personal rejection of capital punishment. Preservation of the humanity within society at large is more important than you and yours devotion to vengeance. It's okay, dandy and sometimes just a good time to kill in self-defense, but to do so for vengeance, to do anything in vengeance, really, erodes your soul. Once the criminal has been apprehended, and he can no longer tear the delicate anuses of our youth; he's no longer a threat. Let him rot in mind-numbing sterility for his remainder, the dullness of doing time interrupted frequently by a parade of murderers with hard-ons aching to penetrate a creature lower than themselves.

Frankly that seems more appropriate to me, anyway, and if it's not inhumane enough for you, then I recommend you burn off all that extra aggression by raping babies.
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#103 Nov 04 2009 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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It cracks me up that you're "punishing" posters by refusing to engage them in conversation.

No, no, don't answer. You're not worthy of addressing me.


It's even funnier because no one is even trying anymore.
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#104 Nov 04 2009 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Once the criminal has been apprehended, and he can no longer tear the delicate anuses of our youth


Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with this particular part.
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#106 Nov 04 2009 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Once the criminal has been apprehended, and he can no longer tear the delicate anuses of our youth


Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with this particular part.


Painful memories of that night you spent in the drunk tank, Stubs?


I wonder how many times I've insinuated you've been fUcked in the ***. I bet it's triple digits.
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#107 Nov 04 2009 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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That doesn't even make sense (and not just gramatically). I've pointed out how I feel about the death penalty in certain circumstances. There's nothing to make up there. That's in contrast to the outpourings of ignorant made-up crap spewed by some on here to argue some point I never made in the first place.
I'm going to assume you knew that the 2nd you was a typo and that you're not really that dumb.

But what I said, makes complete sense as you're the one advocating for a made up world where we can actually enact the death penalty with 100% certainty of guilt.


Of course I knew it was a typo. When 99% of what you write is pure crap, the typos jump out as the only intelligent thing you say.

Some people are convicted with 100% proof yes. Not all. Once again, some criminals confess to their crimes. Some have evidence that is so over-whelming, the criminal is forced to later on admit he did it after first lying.

It's amazing that even though real world events such as this happen to real world people every day and they are logged for posterity in law court libraries and the like, your kind still make up your own little world in which things like that never happen.

It might be better for all concerned if you got an Internet in your own little world - you're fouling up the one in reality.
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I wonder how many times I've insinuated you've been fUcked in the ***. I bet it's triple digits.


Actually your schtick used to be implying that I was infatuated with your ****. The **** rape scenario is a rather new introduction to our fragile forum friendship.
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#109 Nov 04 2009 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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I believe the death penalty is a fitting punishment for scum who rape and murder babies. For chavs also.


I got a plan! You should move to a medieval theocracy! They'd love to have you, and I'm sure you would find many aspects of their life admirable.

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You should move to a medieval theocracy!

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If we extend the death penalty to those who confess, what we're really doing is sponsoring suicide.

Surely even our dear mooglfUcker friend jftaru wasn't so damaged by his mother's prenatal drinking that he fails to grasp the hypocrisy of a system which forbids doctors to lend a trained hand but which allows some guy with a degree in criminology from the University of Phoenix to provide such assistance.
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#112 Nov 04 2009 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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If we extend the death penalty to those who confess, what we're really doing is sponsoring suicide.

Surely even our dear mooglfUcker friend jftaru wasn't so damaged by his mother's prenatal drinking that he fails to grasp the hypocrisy of a system which forbids doctors to lend a trained hand but which allows some guy with a degree in criminology from the University of Phoenix to provide such assistance.
Is this a confession?
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#113 Nov 04 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I think we get the point: If you can prove 100% that someone committed a heinous crime, they should be executed.

Is that correct?

Then can you understand why we can NEVER be 100% sure? That's the point everyone else has been making. You can't know for sure. We can get to beyond a reasonable doubt, but we can't be 100% sure. That reason is why we have systems, to make sure we're as certain as possible.


Well now THERE you go. You actually addressed my point. And it only took 15 posts, 73 insults, a small circle jerk and probably the divine intervention of some omnipotent deity.

Was that so hard? I mean, here we are now having a nice conversation. Isn't this nice?

Ok, back to the point. I don't agree that you can never get 100% proof. For a start, you can have an admission. Even without an admission, a room full of eye-witnesses together with CCTV footage for example is usually enough. Then when he's shown the footage, he will usually confess.

I get the point that you think if it's not 100% then the death penalty shouldn't apply but you are wrong to think there are no situations where 100% proof is attainable.

Also, let's say hypothetically that we DID get 100% proof. Do you then consider the death penalty appropriate? I get the impression that certain people here, even if they had 100% proof would still fight to have a baby rapist or murderer kept alive. I think this is morally wrong, not to mention a drain on the tax payer.

I do think that some crimes are bad enough to warrant the death penalty.


If there's 100% proof, then sure, the death penalty is fine. Again, the entire point of people arguing against you is not "we like rapists," it's that "in reality you will almost NEVER have 100% proof. Ergo, the death penalty is a bad idea."

The reason you get insulted is because you come at it from a ridiculous angle.

Jtf: I think murderers should be executed. Chavs too.
Asylum: Uh... no?
Jtf: YOU LIKE RAPISTS!

No offense, that's how you've come off the entire time.


You guys are so hypocritical.

If you go back and read the early posts you will see that for about 20 posts at the start, the only argument was against the COST. People were just saying that Death Row costs more than normal prison plus one guy was saying he was outright against the death penalty whatever.

Then when that was over, I spent about 50 posts pointing out that the crappiness of the US penal system was not representative of the world at large and that we weren't talking about systems but about whether the death penalty itself was a suitable punishment for a crime.

I made a simple observation and it is you guys who responded from a totally ridiculous angle.

Me: I think the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for certain crimes
You guys: YOU SICKO YOU WANT BLOOD YOU GET TURNED ON BY SNUFF!!
Me: No, I just think the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for certain crimes
You guys: MORON!!! IN THE US THE APPEALS PROCEDURE CAN LAST FOR YEARS!!!!
etc etc

I made a simple observation about 100 posts ago that sensible, rational people like Aripyanfar responded to in 1 post, giving their opinion.

Meanwhile a bunch of idiotic, rabid jerks spent 50 posts throwing insults and talking about irrelevant crap before all finally addressing the point in a single post they could have done hours ago.

And you wonder why you guys have your reputation.

Sad thing is, you guys don't even realise that the posts are all there in chronological order for anyone to see. You can live in a world of your own but you can't make anyone else live in it...
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#114 Nov 04 2009 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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At risk of feeding the fUcktard troll, You state opinions backed up by puerile twaddle and flame people who took the time to propound a rational humane argument.

That, sir, in my book, makes you a retarded fUcking cUnt.

People who call for the death penalty should be gassed, then beheaded, then gassed again, before being killed to death by humming birds with frick'n "Laser Beams" on their frick'n heads.
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#115 Nov 04 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The only problem I have with the original article:

"Crucifixion in the conservative desert Kingdom means tying the convict’s body to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after he is decapitated by a professional swordsman. "

I propose they use novice swordsmen. Let them get a few practice swings in.

Crucifixion in a Muslim country. You'd think they'd have their own religion-based position of execution instead of stealing from someone else.

"Crucifixion in the conservative desert Kingdom means tying the convict’s body to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after he is decapitated by a professional swordsman. "

How can it be a form of execution if they're tied up after being decapitated? In the society in which this article takes place, it is for display purposes only.
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#116 Nov 04 2009 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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You guys are so hypocritical.

If you go back and read the early posts you will see that for about 20 posts at the start, the only argument was against the COST. People were just saying that Death Row costs more than normal prison plus one guy was saying he was outright against the death penalty whatever.

Then when that was over, I spent about 50 posts pointing out that the crappiness of the US penal system was not representative of the world at large and that we weren't talking about systems but about whether the death penalty itself was a suitable punishment for a crime.

I made a simple observation and it is you guys who responded from a totally ridiculous angle.


How was anything said hypocritical? The cost is enormous, and ignoring it is unrealistic. Innocent people tend to wind up dead with the death penalty, and yet you ignore it, which is unrealistic. There's almost never a case of 100% proof, but you insist the death penalty should be in place to punish certain crimes even if there's a chance they are wrong... which is unrealistic.

Your entire argument is based on something other than reality. Ever response that hasn't been insulting you (and most of those that have) just hit that point again and again. The one time I agreed with you (while still saying, "sure, although you realize this is unrealistic and won't happen in reality"), the next reply you call me (as you responded to me) hypocritical.

You base your views on something other than reality and then cry that we don't see the sense in them. Well, yeah, sorry for pointing out the obvious.
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#117 Nov 04 2009 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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drivel


No time to read your ridiculous rantings. It's pretty clear you have nothing worth saying.

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Crucifixion in a Muslim country. You'd think they'd have their own religion-based position of execution instead of stealing from someone else.


Its history predates Christianity by several hundred years. It was a common torture and execution method employed by the Romans long before Christ. Just because the Christians latched onto it as a symbol doesn't mean it's religion-based.

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 10:35am by Ambrya


You take things too seriously...

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Crucifixion in a Muslim country. You'd think they'd have their own religion-based position of execution instead of stealing from someone else.
Seriously? This may be the dumbest thing you've said today.

I think yu should go back and research crucifixion a little more.


Only if you research typing first...
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You guys: YOU SICKO YOU WANT BLOOD YOU GET TURNED ON BY SNUFF!!
Me: No, I just think the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for certain crimes


I hate to tell you this, chap, but these are almost always mutually implicative, and they are certainly so in this case. If you think that there is a crime which deserves death in retribution, then you are being vengeful, and are committing a rape of your own human potential and intellect far more insidious than one of the flesh. It makes you a sick and violent example of a human being and you should seriously consider seeking help. It's okay though man, because we are here for you; the first step to bettering yourself is acceptance, and it's truly not too late. Just think, if you'd never posted this thread about your latent and subconscious desires about pleasuring yourself to the subjugation and subsequent murder of helpless individuals, you'd never have even had the chance to realize this.

Please, don't waste this chance. If you can't get help from the asylum, then please, get help somewhere.

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I made a simple observation about 100 posts ago that sensible, rational people like Aripyanfar responded to in 1 post, giving their opinion.


Ari probably actually entertains the notion that you might stop thinking stupid things if she presents ideas without being overtly confrontational. While noble, it's much easier to just call you stupid.

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#119 Nov 04 2009 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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It cracks me up that you're "punishing" posters by refusing to engage them in conversation.

No, no, don't answer. You're not worthy of addressing me.



I was wrong earlier - they were talking about you.
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What the fUcK?

Now I'll be the first to admit, this thread is full of Kavekk and Pensive and LockeCole so I haven't really read very much of it, but has anyone explained why this dude is responding to posts from hours ago? Makes my job a lot tougher when the gratification is so delayed.
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#121 Nov 04 2009 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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What the fUcK?

Now I'll be the first to admit, this thread is full of Kavekk and Pensive and LockeCole so I haven't really read very much of it, but has anyone explained why this dude is responding to posts from hours ago? Makes my job a lot tougher when the gratification is so delayed.

What? We're supposed to post in realtime?

This isn't irc, dude...he may be a useless **** but at least he's not necroposting months-old conversations.
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Honestly, I only read the first couple of posts, and then just snippets of the arguing, but I'm just going to say that I would like to see more stories about people who rape and murder children being beheaded and crucified.

I'd like to be the executioner for it. I wonder what the prerequisites would be...
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What the fUcK?

Now I'll be the first to admit, this thread is full of Kavekk and Pensive and LockeCole so I haven't really read very much of it, but has anyone explained why this dude is responding to posts from hours ago? Makes my job a lot tougher when the gratification is so delayed.


You don't like me? That hurts, man. That fucking hurts. I hope you fucking choke. And your little dog, too.
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#124 Nov 04 2009 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, let's say hypothetically that we DID get 100% proof. Do you then consider the death penalty appropriate? I get the impression that certain people here, even if they had 100% proof would still fight to have a baby rapist or murderer kept alive. I think this is morally wrong, not to mention a drain on the tax payer.


It's never appropriate, even with infallible proof of guilt.

Put your sticky little baby hand in mine and I'll tell you why, taru-friend: You don't best beasts by becoming one yourself. Pretty simple basis for my own personal rejection of capital punishment. Preservation of the humanity within society at large is more important than you and yours devotion to vengeance. It's okay, dandy and sometimes just a good time to kill in self-defense, but to do so for vengeance, to do anything in vengeance, really, erodes your soul. Once the criminal has been apprehended, and he can no longer tear the delicate anuses of our youth; he's no longer a threat. Let him rot in mind-numbing sterility for his remainder, the dullness of doing time interrupted frequently by a parade of murderers with hard-ons aching to penetrate a creature lower than themselves.

Frankly that seems more appropriate to me, anyway, and if it's not inhumane enough for you, then I recommend you burn off all that extra aggression by raping babies.


I see your point but I feel it would be better made by someone who doesn't use phrases like 'tear the delicate anuses of our youth'.

I don't agree with the vengeance part but I respect your opinion anyway.

Amazing how you were able to address my point in one single post first time though and with almost no insults. You're probably more an OOT man, am I right?
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Sir Kavekk wrote:
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What the fUcK?

Now I'll be the first to admit, this thread is full of Kavekk and Pensive and LockeCole so I haven't really read very much of it, but has anyone explained why this dude is responding to posts from hours ago? Makes my job a lot tougher when the gratification is so delayed.


You don't like me? That hurts, man. That fucking hurts. I hope you fucking choke. And your little dog, too.


Hey now, what did Guenny ever do to you?
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What the fUcK?

Now I'll be the first to admit, this thread is full of Kavekk and Pensive and LockeCole so I haven't really read very much of it, but has anyone explained why this dude is responding to posts from hours ago? Makes my job a lot tougher when the gratification is so delayed.


You don't like me? That hurts, man. That fucking hurts. I hope you fucking choke. And your little dog, too.


It's not so much that I don't like you, it's just that unless I shock my **** every so often I fall asleep reading your posts. Pensive I don't like, though. And Locke is just an outright bag of rotten cUnt-meat.
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