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#1 Nov 01 2009 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I swear, next time I hear someone go after that superfluous and extremely irritating high note at the end of "land of the free" that Whitney Houston threw in for the 92(?) Olympics, Ima choke a *****.

That being said, Amber Riley and the rest of the cast of Glee did a fairly decent job of it at the World Series last night.
#2 Nov 01 2009 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
Very few vocalists have the range to hit the harmonic note with full color. Even Whitney lost a little of the color of her sound for that note. Colatura sopranos can do it, but you're right, everyone else ends up screeching a little.

#3 Nov 01 2009 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why does anyone do it? And why do people cheer when these idiots do it?

I hate people.
#4 Nov 01 2009 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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Why does anyone do it? And why do people cheer when these idiots do it?

I hate people.


This. x1000.

It's the National Anthem, not the latest pop hit. Trying to vamp it up too much seems...disrepectful to me. Just sing it straight.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 2:07pm by Ambrya
#5 Nov 01 2009 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
I dunno, Jose Feliciano's version of it is a lot poppier than the "traditional" rendition (he changed it to 4/4 time and jazzed it up a bit.) But in his case, it works, as it reflected his feelings on America as a Puerto Rican.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 5:55pm by catwho
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#7 Nov 02 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Ambrya wrote:
I swear, next time I hear someone go after that superfluous and extremely irritating high note at the end of "land of the free" that Whitney Houston threw in for the 92(?) Olympics, Ima choke a *****.

That being said, Amber Riley and the rest of the cast of Glee did a fairly decent job of it at the World Series last night.


It was the '90 Super Bowl...it was a big deal with the Gulf War, and all I think.

And yeah, the Glee cast did...I am glad to know that they aren't all remixing and auto-tuning, etc on that show.
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#8 Nov 02 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Ambrya wrote:
I swear, next time I hear someone go after that superfluous and extremely irritating high note at the end of "land of the free" that Whitney Houston threw in for the 92(?) Olympics, Ima choke a *****.

That being said, Amber Riley and the rest of the cast of Glee did a fairly decent job of it at the World Series last night.


It was the '90 Super Bowl...it was a big deal with the Gulf War, and all I think.


Knew it was something around that time, since I was in high school when it happened, and it prompted a male classmate to make a rather memorable remark when another classmate did it as an audition piece:

"I could hit that note...if I had pants with deep pockets, and vice grips."

I had assumed the Olympics because I knew she was on that soundtrack from one of the Olympics during my high school years as well.

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"And yeah, the Glee cast did...I am glad to know that they aren't all remixing and auto-tuning, etc on that show.


Well, they do way too much auto-tuning on the show, but it's beyond my understanding why, since a large portion of the cast was recruited off Broadway and has the vocal chops without the auto-tune. My best guess is that they figure if they have to do it for some of the singers, they have to do it with all of them, or that they are trying to make the soundtrack sound studio-polished, thinking more people will buy it that way.
#9 Nov 02 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
Ambrya wrote:
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Ambrya wrote:
I swear, next time I hear someone go after that superfluous and extremely irritating high note at the end of "land of the free" that Whitney Houston threw in for the 92(?) Olympics, Ima choke a *****.

That being said, Amber Riley and the rest of the cast of Glee did a fairly decent job of it at the World Series last night.


It was the '90 Super Bowl...it was a big deal with the Gulf War, and all I think.


Knew it was something around that time, since I was in high school when it happened, and it prompted a male classmate to make a rather memorable remark when another classmate did it as an audition piece:

"I could hit that note...if I had pants with deep pockets, and vice grips."

I had assumed the Olympics because I knew she was on that soundtrack from one of the Olympics during my high school years as well.


Yeah, she did a song for the '88 Olympics, One Moment In Time.

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"And yeah, the Glee cast did...I am glad to know that they aren't all remixing and auto-tuning, etc on that show.


Well, they do way too much auto-tuning on the show, but it's beyond my understanding why, since a large portion of the cast was recruited off Broadway and has the vocal chops without the auto-tune. My best guess is that they figure if they have to do it for some of the singers, they have to do it with all of them, or that they are trying to make the soundtrack sound studio-polished, thinking more people will buy it that way.


I'll never understand Fox...

I don't like autotuning personally. I feel like it's cheating when it comes to singing, and does an runaround of voice training, and practice, practice, practice when all is needed is a box labeled "studio magic".
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#10 Nov 02 2009 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
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It's the National Anthem, not the latest pop hit. Trying to vamp it up too much seems...disrepectful to me. Just sing it straight.


I dunno, I think the American national anthem is due a bit of disrespect. Not because I hate America - although of course, like all Europeans, I do - but because it sounds like ****. Now, I realise I'm throwing rocks in glass houses here. The English national anthem would be quite possibly the worst national anthem in the world, if it didn't annoy the Scots so much. We sing it approximately a hundred percent less, though, which brings me to my main point: what is up with chickens?
#11 Nov 02 2009 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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It's a stupid anthem, for sure. It's bombastic, militaristic and mawkish. The tune was born as a drinking song, and should have been left there, as only drunks imagine they can carry it.

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#12 Nov 02 2009 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think the American National Anthem is very fitting of it's people, as a whole.
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#13 Nov 02 2009 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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**** you too.

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#14 Nov 02 2009 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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It's the National Anthem, not the latest pop hit. Trying to vamp it up too much seems...disrepectful to me. Just sing it straight.


I dunno, I think the American national anthem is due a bit of disrespect. Not because I hate America - although of course, like all Europeans, I do - but because it sounds like sh*t.


I agree that as a musical composition, it's amateurish at best, and I'm not one to get all misty-eyed when it plays, either out of an excess of patriotism or as a lover of great music (okay, I admit, for a while after 9/11 I did, but those were extreme circumstances.)

However, with ANY national anthem, a modicum of respect should be accorded, because that's just the way people with class behave. You stand up, you doff your hat, if you can't be moved to sing along you at the very least shut your trap, and if you're at an event being broadcast live on national TV, you try not to get caught on camera picking your nose.

At any rate, adding a whole bunch of yodels and grace notes and glissandi--all of which are done in order to make the performance about the performer, rather than about honoring the nation in question--is just tacky.


Edited, Nov 2nd 2009 10:48am by Ambrya
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@#%^ you too.

I actually like the American National Anthem.

But, yea, there was an insult in there.
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Ambrya wrote:
At any rate, adding a whole bunch of yodels and grace notes and glissandi--all of which are done in order to make the performance about the performer, rather than about honoring the nation in question--is just tacky.


Agreed, with the stipulation that an exception be made for Hendrix.
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#17 Nov 02 2009 at 12:50 PM Rating: Good
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Ambrya wrote:
At any rate, adding a whole bunch of yodels and grace notes and glissandi--all of which are done in order to make the performance about the performer, rather than about honoring the nation in question--is just tacky.


Agreed, with the stipulation that an exception be made for Hendrix.


Yeah, I could go along with that.
#18 Nov 02 2009 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't like autotuning personally. I feel like it's cheating when it comes to singing, and does an runaround of voice training, and practice, practice, practice when all is needed is a box labeled "studio magic".


I'm not sure what this auto-tuning is, but I suspect it's some sort of computer adjuster to make the sung pitch at any given point in time match the actual note it's supposed to be? (i.e. what Britney Spears had to use.)
#19 Nov 02 2009 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'll never understand Fox...


Well, I can see why they do it with SOME of the actors. The guy who plays Finn is clearly the vocal weak link on the show and it would never do to have your leading man sound like an amateur, but to do with with Lea Michele? WHY?!

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I don't like autotuning personally. I feel like it's cheating when it comes to singing, and does an runaround of voice training, and practice, practice, practice when all is needed is a box labeled "studio magic".


For the most part, I agree, but Cory Monteith is so charmingly, innocently dumb as Finn, he's a good match for the role in all other regards, so I can excuse it. I think when the cast goes on tour, however, there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they don't sound like they do on the show.
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I don't like autotuning personally. I feel like it's cheating when it comes to singing, and does an runaround of voice training, and practice, practice, practice when all is needed is a box labeled "studio magic".


I'm not sure what this auto-tuning is, but I suspect it's some sort of computer adjuster to make the sung pitch at any given point in time match the actual note it's supposed to be? (i.e. what Britney Spears had to use.)



Yep, pretty much.
#21 Nov 02 2009 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Nightsintdreams wrote:

I'll never understand Fox...


Well, I can see why they do it with SOME of the actors. The guy who plays Finn is clearly the vocal weak link on the show and it would never do to have your leading man sound like an amateur, but to do with with Lea Michele? WHY?!

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I don't like autotuning personally. I feel like it's cheating when it comes to singing, and does an runaround of voice training, and practice, practice, practice when all is needed is a box labeled "studio magic".


For the most part, I agree, but Cory Monteith is so charmingly, innocently dumb as Finn, he's a good match for the role in all other regards, so I can excuse it. I think when the cast goes on tour, however, there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they don't sound like they do on the show.


Cherried for truth. A lot of people around where I am who watch aren't aware of the autotuning, and don't quite grasp the concept of it. I figure the only way that Fox is gonna be able to completely pull off a tour is to Milli Vanilli it with a tape.
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#22 Nov 02 2009 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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I figure the only way that Fox is gonna be able to completely pull off a tour is to Milli Vanilli it with a tape.
I suspect this happens a lot nowadays anyway.
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I'm not sure what this auto-tuning is, but I suspect it's some sort of computer adjuster to make the sung pitch at any given point in time match the actual note it's supposed to be? (i.e. what Britney Spears had to use.)

Yup. It also leads to a somewhat "flat" performance (at least to me) in some instances. For all I know, I listen to Auto-tuned music all the time and don't realize it but it stands out glaringly in Glee.
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Francis Scott Key did not write a song. He wrote a poem titled "Defense of Baltimore". When the poem was published in The Baltimore Examiner (I thnk that was the name of the paper) on Sept. 20 1814 there was a note under the title "To the tune of ANACREON in HEAVEN" a very popular drinking song of the era.
Who cares how hard it is to hit a note after a few glasses of wine. <grin>

With that said the last verse of the poem is what I cherish.

O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

Now if the bomb that hit the powder magazine had exploded, the Brits would have taken Fort McHenry, burnt the shipyards of "That nest of Pirates" as Adm. Cockeburne called us and Key wouldn't have had anything to celebrate.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2009 6:09pm by Jonwin
#25 Nov 02 2009 at 7:25 PM Rating: Good
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Autotuning can be cool.

also 2:12 Smiley: laugh

there's also an iphone app.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2009 7:40pm by Xsarus
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Autotuning can be cool.

also 2:12 Smiley: laugh

there's also an iphone app.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2009 7:40pm by Xsarus
#5 is by far my favorite.
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