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#1 Nov 01 2009 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
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Build me a new machine and have it cost under $550 if at all possible.
My older machine wasnt working on thursday AM after being fine on Wednesday eve.
If it is just the powersource it will be replaced. If not I may be better off with a new machine.

I play eq and no other online games. I don't care a lot about great graphics, and do not need a monitor.
Oh and if the New machine is too good, It would be stolen by Elne Clare.





#2 Nov 01 2009 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not going to bother linking stuff up because others here can probably find better prices. From what I understand though reading the =10 forums, you can easily build a PC that can play FFXI for $300 or less. If it can play FFXI, it can surely play EQ.
#3 Nov 01 2009 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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Oh and if the New machine is too good, It would be stolen by Elne Clare.
So what you're saying is "build you two $250 computers that are better than what you currently have".
#4 Nov 01 2009 at 9:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Netbooks can run FFXI (and thus probably EQ):
HP 310 for $399

For a desktop, you can get something a hell of a lot more powerful though.

If you don't want to mess around with installing ANYTHING, get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147044

Or this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103232

If you don't mind messing around and adding a few things on your own, get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147034

Microsoft should give you a free upgrade to Windows 7, but you'll have to install it yourself.

Then add in this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500072

There. You have a system that will kick EQ's *** (and probably EQ2, WoW, and everything short of FFXIV) for under $500.
#5 Nov 01 2009 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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catwho, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
There. Elne clare has a system that will kick EQ's *** (and probably EQ2, WoW, and everything short of FFXIV) for under $500.
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#6 Nov 01 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
catwho, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
There. Elne clare has a system that will kick EQ's *** (and probably EQ2, WoW, and everything short of FFXIV) for under $500.


ThisSmiley: grin

One reason I don't play LOTR:O very often right now is that my computer craws when I go into any heavily populated areas.

I know my computer can easily handle EQ for Him and all we would have to do is transfer everything on my HD.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 11:26am by ElneClare
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#7 Nov 01 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Check out the Dell Outlet store. Refurbished equipment. Perfectly good stuff for under 500. Try a Dimension desktop; they might not have the best video but if your old vid card is still good you can just pop that in. Also will have to upgrade Vista to 7, but you should get a good enough price to include that.
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#8 Nov 01 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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$550 is a really, really tight budget for a gaming rig. I'll see what I can do though.

Case: cooler Master CM690 - $69.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

Power supply: Antec PSU $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

Motherboard: Asus P5E Deluxe - Open box $125 (the non refurbished one is $169)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131317R

Processor: core 2 Duo dual core 2.93 GHz - $119.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115056
less horsepower than I would like, but the processor i'd usually reccommend is $160

Ram: 2 sticks of 1GB Corsair DDR2 Ram $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115056
You will want to double that to 4GB at a later date when budget allows

Video Card: Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ $134
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
That card will run every game out there at the moment. You could go with a 9800 GT instead for $100, but with somewhat decreased performance

Thats at $561 right there with no hard drive and no DVD drive.

Hard drive: Western digital SATA 250GB HDD $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

Optical drive: 22x SATA DVD burner $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192

with the two drives it comes out to $631. If you can reuse your existing caseand maybe the existing DVD drive you can get that under $500.

You could go with the cheaper micro atx version of the motherboard above for $80, but you lose some functionality. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131222R
Also, could substitute the 9800 gt for $99 for the video card. but for $30 you take a very large performance hit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130518

I also didn't include a new operating system in there. that machine will run Windows 7 just fine if you want, or XP, or vista.

You could also go with somethign like a Dell Inspiron 537S for $500.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/desktop-inspiron-537s/pd.aspx?refid=desktop-inspiron-537s&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=dthp
the video card options suck in that one, but the ram HDD and CPU are all a bit better than what I specced out. And it comes with windows 7.
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#9 Nov 01 2009 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Kao, you're really highballing it. That's way too much for his gaming. Hell, my rig would be good enough, and most of it is 2-3 years old.
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If you are going to build a new computer, may as well build it with half decent components.
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#11 Nov 01 2009 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If you are going to build a new computer, may as well build it with half decent components.


This, or you will be building again soon.

My AW will be three years old this Dec, and still runs along some of the new stuff put out because I went all high end way back when.
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#12 Nov 01 2009 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
It's not really a gaming rig, though. Yes, he's doing some gaming on it, it's true. My mother plays solitaire on her PC sometimes. If her old one broke, I would not suggest she get a bec cooled super-computer.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 7:29pm by Kavekk
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Kao, you're really highballing it. That's way too much for his gaming. Hell, my rig would be good enough, and most of it is 2-3 years old.

My Dell from 2003 handled EQ just fine Smiley: laugh
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#14 Nov 01 2009 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If you are going to build a new computer, may as well build it with half decent components.


I'm trying to work out how cheaply I can get those parts here in the UK now Smiley: lol I DO need a new desktop...


#15 Nov 01 2009 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Kao, you're really highballing it. That's way too much for his gaming. Hell, my rig would be good enough, and most of it is 2-3 years old.

My Dell from 2003 handled EQ just fine Smiley: laugh

As did this refurb'd Dell laptop from '02!
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If you are going to build a new computer, may as well build it with half decent components.


Except for this stipulation:
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Oh and if the New machine is too good, It would be stolen by Elne Clare.
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#17 Nov 01 2009 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Id tend to suggest 2 different makers only because they are inexpensive, offer good pc's and I own one and my son the other they do make 500$ pcs that are upgradeable and atm should come with win 7 or a formatted drive if you prefer and have a copy of xp allready.

Id say a core 2 duo with 2 gb(for win xp anyhow) and a pcie v2.0 with a gefore 9800gtx or better would easily handle eq/eq2 and wow running each at 60 fps with no problems. any more than that would to me be overkill if you indeed only tend to play one of those games.
#18 Nov 01 2009 at 4:57 PM Rating: Excellent
I tend to suggest HP since they paid my paycheck for a long time, and I actually know enough about them to speak with some authority. (Plus, I run a refurbished HP workstation I altered myself, and I still swear it's the best way to get a good, cheap computer.)
#19 Nov 01 2009 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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Jonwin here.
Ok lets design a machine for elne clare for around 500.

Her game of choice is lotr online and civ 5.
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#20 Nov 01 2009 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Take Kao's post with the downgrades he mentioned...there are other items in there you can shave a lot off of and still end up with a good machine.
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#21 Nov 01 2009 at 8:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd listen to Kao, not Kavekk. I'd rather have a machine that will run something that I may want to play later, than be sad because I can't play because my machine sucks ***.

Elne, you will love LOTRO on geforce 9800 gtx and higher, I promise!
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#22 Nov 01 2009 at 9:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Save yourself the headache and build as good of a machine as you can within the budget.

If you're cheap and, say, don't get a nice chunk of RAM, a month down the road your machine will get bogged down doing even menial tasks, and you'll wonder why you're having so many issues getting things to work as well as they did on day one.

I've seen this happen over and over with family members that buy computers.



Edited, Nov 1st 2009 9:35pm by bsphil
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You know, you can play alot of sweet games with a Vic-20. I might still have mine somewhere. It has a cassette drive.
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#24 Nov 02 2009 at 12:51 AM Rating: Good
Places you can afford to cut corners:

* Get a USB headset rather than a sound card initially.
* The case. A $21 case will handle things well enough until later.

Other notes:

To be honest, Kao's build probably can stand some rearranging for performance-per-dollar improvements - personally, I'm a fan of MSI for motherboards for home computers, so motherboard + 2x 2GB RAM + processor = $28 more than his current setup. After taking the $42 we're saving on the case into account, this gives a higher-powered system for $14 less (a quarter of the way to a 500GB HD).

Really, 1GB sticks aren't cost-effective (if your computer won't complain about having a single 2GB stick instead of two 1GB sticks, you can save some money that way; however, the same is not true for taking a 4GB stick over two 2GB sticks), nor are hard drives outside the 500-1500GB range (2TB drives are still well above the price curve, and 320GB and lower drives have reached the point where the limiting factor on cost is something that can't readily be reduced). If you can get by with a $50 graphics card (and you probably can), this would let you splurge a little on memory and the HD.
#25 Nov 02 2009 at 2:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Of all the computer components you will ever buy, the case is the one you will have longest. Buying a case with 80m fan ports given current trends in processor and video card temperatures is a less than ideal solution. Yes, there are cheaper cases out there that you could buy, I won't ever reccommend them.

The motherboard I specified, either of them, has an adequate onboard 7.1 surround sound sound card with optical out ports built in.

MSI is a decent company. I don't use their equipment personally, but I haven't heard many complaints. It looks like it also has an onboard 7.1 sound card. I use Asus boards in all of my builds

2Gb sticks are a good pick if you plan on going with a 64 bit OS and eventually upgrading to 8GB. If not you'll lose a bit of performance by not utilizing the secondary ram channel. It's not a huge impact, and you probably won't notice it either way.

As for video cards, sure. you can buy a $30 video card. It will probably work. Chances are it won't melt right away. The $130 9800 GTX+ on the other hand is an excellent gaming card. It is just slightly slower than the 285 GTX, one of Nvidia's current flagship cards, but about $400 less, has a lifetime warrenty, and will run any and all games available at the moment, including Crysis. A $30 card probably will be a lower end 7xxx or 8xxx series card, will most likely not support directX 10 (which will be important if you go with windows 7), and will more than likely fail quicker because they use cheap capacitors.

Realistically though, build what you can afford and what you want. you cna always upgrade later. the motherboard, PSU and case are the most pain in the *** components to swap out, so get one you won't have to swap out for a while unless you like doing that kind of thing. Everything else is easier to swap in and out. And you could go with lower end components for those items and upgrade later. You'll just end up spending more money that way in the long run.
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#26 Nov 02 2009 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
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I have an MSI motherboard and used the onboard sound for a long time. The only reason I have a sound card now is the mobo's sound died. Don't know if that's a problem with MSI boards or if I just got a lemon. But for the record, it sounded pretty good while it lasted.
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