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Joph,



And this is part of the reason the Dems were able to take control of congress. The party decided it was going to go the rino route instead of sticking to the conservative principles that define the party. Incidentally we're beginning to see the backlash from conservative voters.

I said we're beginning to see it. And if NJ actually elects a republican then yes this is the beginning of the end of Dem rule in congress.

Moderates who used to represent ideals that aren't consistent with what the GOP stands for. And if running them off leads to more traditional conservatives in office then I say go for it. If this was a real problem we wouldn't be talking about how close the governorships of Va and NJ are (two blue obama states).

Kavek,



Or people who have been pushed away by this rino nonsense will be inspired and actually get out and vote this upcoming election cycle.



Edited, Nov 3rd 2009 2:00pm by publiusvarus

What they are is warnings to rino's in other states up for election next year that they will not get the GOP support if they push liberal values and plans.

Governors vote for healthcare reform in Congress now?

The correct answer is "No, governors don't @#%^ing vote in Congress."

Nice try, though.

Joph's faith in whatshisnames site not withstanding

Reading a lot into the results of odd-year elections is almost always wrongheaded because they involve so few races.

Obviously, if one party sweeps the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial contests as well as the special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District, the winning side will crow that this is the most significant political event in a half-century. And, just as obviously, if one party goes 0 for 3, the losing side will offer a dozen moderately legitimate reasons to excuse away its poor performance.
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In short, take all the grand pronouncements about the results of 2009's trio of high-profile contests with a hefty portion of salt.

If these elections aren't important why did Obama invest so much of himself in them?

It is risky business to view today’s key “off-year” contests — in Virginia, New Jersey and New York — as bellwethers for next year’s much fuller slate of elections. Or, at least that’s what history suggests.

Sometimes, these odd-year elections can look oddly predictive, as in 2003, when Republican pickups for governor in Mississippi and Kentucky preceded the re-election of Republican George W. Bush as president in 2004, and in 2005, when the Democratic candidates scored hard-won holds for governor in New Jersey and Virginia on the eve of their party’s takeover of Congress in the 2006 elections.
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But this year’s big contests seem a bit too idiosyncratic to provide a single takeaway message.
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But even if the GOP gets the better of these 2009 races, any claims of major momentum heading into 2010 would require a rebuttal of a wide range of national opinion polls, the results of which suggest that the Republican Party has a long way to go in order to regain the public standing it lost during Bush’s tumultuous second term.
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With loud voices accusing Obama of putting the United States on a path toward socialism, the president’s approval ratings dropped. Until, that is they stopped falling. And where the parties stand on Election Day 2009, in the big-picture numbers, looks rather amazingly similar to where they were on Election Day 2008.