Okay, wtf is going on?Follow

If it actually does save everyone $50,000 a year, then no, it really doesn't. You were correct about the amount that would be saved. Where you heard the number isn't really that important.

You see where I'm going with this, right? Let's pretend for the moment that I just made up a number out of thin air. I make this wild and crazy claim that health care costs will go up by $2000/year. Then, a few months later, someone comments that they just received a notice from their insurance company saying that their health care costs will go up by $2000/year.

What does that mean? It means that my made up number was right. Shocking!

How many times have I made the argument that the source of something is less important than the truth of that something? I seem to recall making a point about how if a drunk in a gutter says "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you", it's just as valid and "true" a statement as if the Son of God comes down from heaven and says the same thing. Far too many people get caught up on who says something, and where they got their information and far too few people look at the information itself. I see it all the time.


Um... And wouldn't the insurance companies be the best source to find out how much they're going to raise rates as a result of current health care reform? You know. If we are going to look at the source...

Yeah. You're frantically trying to cover your *** for throwing out shit numbers, without sources and then lamely admitting that you think you maybe kinda sorta heard them on the radio maybe from an insurance company.

Except that your claim is that the legislation would raise everyone's insurance whereas the person in question stated that their insurance was raising its rates regardless of whether the legislation passed or not. The legislation, which hasn't even gone to the first round of voting yet had mysteriously made the insurance companies raise their rates? Really? I mean... wow! That's like... magic! And I bet the companies will lower their rates $2,000 if te legislation dies, right? Right? Huh? Because it's all because of the legislation, right? You.. heard it on the radio and stuff?

I realize that, as per usual, you were caught making shit up to match what you really deeply want to believe but you can't see the problem with that? Really?

Good lord.

This is exactly the first thing I thought when Gbaji said the increase next year was due to pending legislation. No, it's not. It's an effort to squeeze money out of their customers while using the legislation as an excuse. There's no chance that they will take lower an increase of that amount. As said, premiums have just kept on rising. The correct answer would have been "the economy went down, but the insurance companies know there isn't an alternative so they can charge more money."

I don't like that premiums go up, but I understand the private companies are in it for the money, not for their customers. Hence why I want reform with a public option that's actually in it for the citizens.