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#77 Oct 31 2009 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Sure. Did you think I was against giving children the right to vote?


It would certainly solve the inconsistency to lower voting age, yes. I'd personally rather raise the age of being an "adult" to a court, but lowering the voting age would be better then just leaving disparity all over the place.
#78 Oct 31 2009 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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Sure. Did you think I was against giving children the right to vote? I'd say a 12 year old is possibly too young, but I think 15 and up, we're getting into an age where people are aware enough of their environment and if interested in politics, can be informed enough to make an educated decision. I think those not informed enough to make a decision wouldn't even bother to show up to vote, so what difference would it make?


Sounds like a plan, although I'd suggest 16 as the age for adult classification and all that it entails (Voting, drinking, treated as an adult in court, etc.)
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#79 Oct 31 2009 at 11:33 AM Rating: Good
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Sure. Did you think I was against giving children the right to vote? I'd say a 12 year old is possibly too young, but I think 15 and up, we're getting into an age where people are aware enough of their environment and if interested in politics, can be informed enough to make an educated decision. I think those not informed enough to make a decision wouldn't even bother to show up to vote, so what difference would it make?


Sounds like a plan, although I'd suggest 10 as the age for adult classification and all that it entails (Voting, drinking, sex, etc.)


Change a number and substitute one word and you're a paedophile, Timelord.

You're walking a fine line there.
#80 Oct 31 2009 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds like a plan, although I'd suggest 9 as the age for adult classification and all that it entails (Voting, drinking, sex, etc.)


Substitute one word and I'm a paedophile, Timelord.

You're walking a fine line there.



Change a number and substitute one word and you're a paedophile, Kavekk.
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When I was a wee one, this was played sitting on a park bench (co-ed btw).

Fill the bench, and when the titular phrase is called out, everyone rocks back and forth until someone goes off one end. This person gets a center seat and the game goes on...wash, rinse, repeat.

1st popularized in the Peanuts comic strip.Smiley: schooled
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#82 Nov 01 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
It's sad that child doesn't have a parent to push him to do well in school.

I am not against the wall idea. I have been put against the wall with my nose touching it the entire recess time plenty of times. I don't believe it was for homework but probably something stupid I did while playing.
#83 Nov 01 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Did I miss the part where it stated that the kid regularly missed homework? Because I don't see how a parent not knowing their kid didn't do their homework one time, makes them an uninvolved parent, yet you're not the first one to say that in this thread.
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#84 Nov 01 2009 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
once at school it was a sunny morning. Come 12 o'clock it was cloudy and started raining. A bunch of us had no coats. We still were sent into the small playground outside for our break.

Those of us who had no coats were forced to stand in a line and face the wall outside in the rain while the other kids ran around and played and what not behind us.

I was probably about 8 at the time.

Edited, Nov 1st 2009 2:05pm by Xellith
#85 Nov 03 2009 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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The punishment isn't for this kid, it's for the other kids. Social control through public shaming isn't a new concept. It's also not particularly effective. It'll probably learn to more children learning how to collaborate on copying one anothers assignments, which is something that will serve them well later in life if they enter the corporate world, so that might be a benefit.
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#86 Nov 03 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
How about this.

For every time the kid doesn't do his homework, he has to spend 30 minutes after school at the local old folks home.

After 5 occasions this turns into helping at the local recycling facility.

After 10 occasions, he gets shot in the face with a bazooka.

I think you will agree with me that this is both effective and environmentally friendly.
#87 Nov 03 2009 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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How about this.

For every time the kid doesn't do his homework, he has to spend 30 minutes after school at the local old folks home.


How about if the kid doesn't do his homework, he gets whatever negative grade effects are represented by the homework portion of said grade?

I guess I just don't get this obsession with making sure some kid in a school does his homework. It's his choice. It's his parents choice to punish him or not if his grades are bad. And ultimately, he'll suffer or succeed based on the real results of his ability to learn things in school. Maybe his future career as a manure spreader will not be impacted a single bit by failing to complete all his homework assignments in school.

Why do we care?
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#88 Nov 03 2009 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Likibiki wrote:
How about this.

For every time the kid doesn't do his homework, he has to spend 30 minutes after school at the local old folks home.


How about if the kid doesn't do his homework, he gets whatever negative grade effects are represented by the homework portion of said grade?

I guess I just don't get this obsession with making sure some kid in a school does his homework. It's his choice. It's his parents choice to punish him or not if his grades are bad. And ultimately, he'll suffer or succeed based on the real results of his ability to learn things in school. Maybe his future career as a manure spreader will not be impacted a single bit by failing to complete all his homework assignments in school.

Why do we care?


Because the school system tells you to?

If we're being so relaxed, how about if kids don't show up, then fine, we'll pay the teachers anyway. Even if no one's there at all. It's down to the parents, after all.

There has to be some form of discipline from the authority figures (note: not the parents). But then again, I'm a strict person when it comes to kids. I don't tolerate any ******* around.

I don't believe in detention. It doesn't do a damn thing, most of the time the parents don't even find out ("I went round Johnny's after school", meaning "I beat the **** out of Johnny")
#89 Nov 03 2009 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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There has to be some form of discipline from the authority figures (note: not the parents).


Yeah, the bad grade, and that's more than enough. If a student fails, s/he fails. The state has an obligation to provide the child with an environment in which to be fairly educated; whether the student takes advantage of it is neither the fault of the state nor the parents. You have to go to school, but you aren't required to pay attention or to do the work.

To hover over a child's homework, not attendance, but homework, is to disrespect that child as a person capable of agency and choice.
#90 Nov 03 2009 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Something Pensive and I agree on? Quick! Alert the media... ;)
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#91 Nov 03 2009 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
Something Pensive and I agree on? Quick! Alert the media... ;)


We agree on plenty of things (most of them principles,) just nothing that we actually talk about, because while conflict is the womb of the interesting, abstract principles are the barren old ladi.. you know what this generation metaphor is getting too weird.
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