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#227 Oct 26 2009 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
What is mind boggling is that you don't realize how intricately God and a disenchantment with your life are intertwined in terms of historical theology. If anyone has an inherent, motivating impetus to abandon material pursuits in this world, it's someone who believes that there is another world coming.

Hah. Go look at an Egyptian tomb some time. One that hasn't already been looted, that is.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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#228 Oct 26 2009 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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If these people you speak of hold stuff to be the end goal sure. But i've noticed that people who believe God has blessed their life tend to give back in time and money to those in need, mostly through church. When you take away a persons ability to achieve a certain level of comfort you also take away the probability that they will donate their time/money to worthy causes.

So...the Church supports welfare, huh? It's okay when you're doing it but God forbid a heathen Democrat is in need!

Typical hypocrisy.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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#229 Oct 26 2009 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Debalic wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
What is mind boggling is that you don't realize how intricately God and a disenchantment with your life are intertwined in terms of historical theology. If anyone has an inherent, motivating impetus to abandon material pursuits in this world, it's someone who believes that there is another world coming.

Hah. Go look at an Egyptian tomb some time. One that hasn't already been looted, that is.


Different sort of millenarianism, and different sort of afterlife.
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#230 Oct 27 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Debalic wrote:
Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
What is mind boggling is that you don't realize how intricately God and a disenchantment with your life are intertwined in terms of historical theology. If anyone has an inherent, motivating impetus to abandon material pursuits in this world, it's someone who believes that there is another world coming.

Hah. Go look at an Egyptian tomb some time. One that hasn't already been looted, that is.


The Egyptians thought the afterlife was basically just like normal life, which was why they packed their bags before leaving. I'm not exactly a theology student, but I'm pretty sure Christianity explicitly holds to an immaterial concept of Heaven where material wealth means nothing. Camels going through the eye of a needle and all that.

The conflict between Christian teachnings and massive accumulation of wealth is readily apparent, but if it didn't stop popes from pimping out the Vatican in the 16th century, it won't stop them today.
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#231REDACTED, Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 9:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Debo,
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#232 Oct 27 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Debo,

Learn to read; it may come in handy someday.

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You don't actually read these threads, do you?

It's about 50/50.

Smiley: laugh
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#233 Oct 27 2009 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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EDIT: Jophiel beat me

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 12:46pm by ManifestOfKujata
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#234 Oct 27 2009 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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#235REDACTED, Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 11:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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#236 Oct 27 2009 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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publiusvarus wrote:
And you're lucky that I read that much. Especially considering 90% of what you write is garbage.

So now I have you admitting that you read at least 90% of my stuff! I beat the average! Smiley: clap

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 12:28pm by Jophiel
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#237REDACTED, Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 12:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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#238 Oct 27 2009 at 12:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're missing a gold mine in the other 50%!

Besides, you said 90% of what I write, not of what you read. You try so hard to make it sound like you don't care but we all know you hope and pray for my posts Smiley: smile

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 1:40pm by Jophiel
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#239REDACTED, Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 1:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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#240 Oct 27 2009 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. That's a lot more thinking that I put into anything you write.

I'm flattered by the amount of attention and effort you give me. Thank you.
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#241REDACTED, Posted: Oct 27 2009 at 2:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your welcome.
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#242 Nov 10 2009 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gbaji wrote:
Dunn is almost certainly done.

According to an article in the CSM today...
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Dunn is a rarity in the political world – someone who did not want to work in the White House and who is eager to escape from the center of power. She reportedly was Obama’s first choice to be communications director but turned him down so she could spend more time with her young son and her husband, Bob Bauer, the president’s personal attorney.

After the president’s original choice, Ellen Moran, left to become chief of staff to the Commerce secretary, Dunn agreed to take the job on an interim basis and is very open about wanting to be done by year’s end.
...so I suppose this will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm sure Beck will claim victory when she leaves though and act as though he was the driving force behind it.

Can I call 'em or can I call 'em? Smiley: laugh

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The White House just lost its chief media strategist and Fox News just lost its best P.R. tool. Anita Dunn, the outspoken and controversial communications aide to President Obama has announced today that she'll be leaving her post; her deputy, Dan Pfeiffer is to replace her. Though Dunn's title was communications director, at times, "Fox News Basher" seemed more appropriate as she seemingly and bizarrely began to publicly wage war on the network roughly a month ago.
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Liberal groups are already spinning Dunn's announcement, insisting that her role as communications director "was always meant to be temporary."
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#243 Nov 10 2009 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Fox News wrote:
Though Dunn's title was communications director, at times, "Fox News Basher" seemed more appropriate as she seemingly and bizarrely began to publicly wage war on the network roughly a month ago.
I love how they always remain purposefully ignorant of why anyone could be upset with what they pass off as reporting.
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