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#1 Oct 18 2009 at 12:00 AM Rating: Good
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Yay. I survived. Long *** flights, but at least business class (they call it "executive" on JAL) is reasonably comfy, specially on the 747.

A few lessons learned so far:

1. After a 12 hour flight, trying to get through the security check for the next flight is harder than it sounds. I'm not even sure why I had keys in my pocket, really!...

2. They don't make you take your shoes off at the check in Tokyo. Unless you forget to take thinks like keys, cell phone, etc out before walking through the detector. Then they make you wear the "special slippers". Apparently, people there have reall small feet too, which just adds to the hilarity.

3. Don't assume that the Hotel buffet you just wandered into can't possibly be that expensive. Not sure how I'll explain that one to my boss.


It's pretty humid, but not too terrible. Of course, I'm pretty sure the universe was mocking me when, after the aforementioned buffet fiasco, I decided to walk around to see what other sources of "normal" priced stuff might be had, only to realize that there's a freaking McDonalds right across the street. I may not be sure God exists, but I'm pretty sure Satan does...


Oh. I also found a KFC and a 7/11, so I'm good. OJ was cheap, and the vodka was expensive (bout half the price of the hotel room bar). So I'm set for the moment anyway...
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#2 Oct 18 2009 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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You shouldn't be surprised at the McDonald's and the KFC. Practically every plane going through southeast Asia passes through Singapore.
#3 Oct 18 2009 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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I was in Singapore airport last week (again). If you havnt got time, or can't be ****** to go into Singaposre itself, I reccomend the swimming pool on the roof in Terminal Two as a fine place to drink loadsa beer and show off your tan.

And if you can be ***** to go into the city, then Little India is the district with the best food and the Raffles Hotel is the best place to get a Singapore Sling whilst checking out the totty.

Edited, Oct 18th 2009 7:03am by paulsol
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#4 Oct 18 2009 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm in Orchard, which is just a short bit from Little India. I'll probably check it out at some point. They are in the midst of a festival, so there's fire works (or "lightning" as my taxi driver described it) and other fun.

Still getting the lay of the land so to speak. I'll be here for almost two weeks, so there's plenty of time. :)
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#5 Oct 18 2009 at 2:21 AM Rating: Good
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Vacation or work, O Verbose One?
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#6 Oct 18 2009 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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I'm in Orchard, which is just a short bit from Little India. I'll probably check it out at some point. They are in the midst of a festival, so there's fire works (or "lightning" as my taxi driver described it) and other fun.

Still getting the lay of the land so to speak. I'll be here for almost two weeks, so there's plenty of time. :)


The festival would be Diwali, which is hindu New Year. Loadsa fireworx and feasting.

2 Weeks!!! Holy Sh't. You'll be pushed to find 2 weeks worth of stuff to keep you interested in Singapore for 2 weeks! If you are able, try and do a quick trip over the border to Malaysia. Iirc Johore Bahru is the first place you come to, adn theres plenty o' places around there that are much more 'South East asian' than Singapore is.

Or if you got a whole day to spare, or more, you can fly to Padang in Sumatra and check out the Earthquake reconstruction or any number of really beautiful places. Lake Toba springs to mind. Prolly and hours flight from budget terminal, or any number o' places are easy to get to from there.

Even a quick return to the southern Islands of Thailand are relatively easy and cheap to fly to.

The best Indian curries are availiable in Malaysia. Advertised as 'banana leaf curries'. best eaten at the places that the locals eat them. steer clear of westerners hotels if you want cheapest and best.

Dont forget to pretend to be Canadian or a New Zealander for bigger smiles wontcha Smiley: smile

Edited, Oct 18th 2009 9:14am by paulsol
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#7 Oct 18 2009 at 3:48 AM Rating: Good
Do we have a pool going on how long it is until gbaji gets caned?
#8 Oct 18 2009 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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Vacation or work, O Verbose One?


While Singapore is pretty neato, it would just be one spot of many if I were vacationing. I'm working. And sadly, I've actually got just about every day filled up with work, including the weekend. In fact, they've got me going in tomorrow, which is a national holiday.

Of course, I estimated my time requirements based on the "if every freaking thing goes wrong" assumption, so I should have time for some stuff. Nothing that would appear on a tour, but there's sufficient trouble one can get into during a few hours here and there. Since I'll be working with folks who live there, I don't suspect I'll miss the tourist trap stuff much anyway...
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#9 Oct 18 2009 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
Don't try to smoke a joint over there. I hear that if you get caught with more than a certain amount of drugs, including weed, you'll swing.
#10 Oct 18 2009 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Training people to do your job who work for 1/5th as much? Smart. Enjoy the minibar. Ahahahahahhaa.
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#11 Oct 18 2009 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
Find a soapbox.
Find a wall.
Find a can of red spray paint.
Spray paint a downward facing arrow on wall.


Stand on soapbox and proceed to tell all of Singapore how incorrect they are using as many words as possible.
#12 Oct 18 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
I know they all look the same to you, Tzemesce, but there are more then a couple hundred people in Singapore. Closer to 5 million, really. I don't think they'd all be able to hear gbaji's rambling.
#13 Oct 18 2009 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
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I know they all look the same to you, Tzemesce


What the hell do you mean by that? Sounds you're trying to accuse me of being a racist while telling me that Singapore is a large city and that Gbaji couldn't possibly find a megaphone in all of the Malay peninsula.

Edited, Oct 18th 2009 1:39pm by Tzemesce
#14 Oct 18 2009 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
Tzemesce wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I know they all look the same to you, Tzemesce


What the hell do you mean by that? Sounds you're trying to accuse me of being a racist while telling me that Singapore is a large city and that Gbaji couldn't possibly find a megaphone in all of the Malay peninsula.

Edited, Oct 18th 2009 1:39pm by Tzemesce


It's a joke. Kill yourself.
#15 Oct 18 2009 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Tzemesce wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I know they all look the same to you, Tzemesce


What the hell do you mean by that? Sounds you're trying to accuse me of being a racist while telling me that Singapore is a large city and that Gbaji couldn't possibly find a megaphone in all of the Malay peninsula.

Edited, Oct 18th 2009 1:39pm by Tzemesce


It's a joke. Kill yourself.


Ohhh... gotcha. Will do.
#16 Oct 18 2009 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Try not to talk too much.

Have fun. Smiley: smile
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#17 Oct 19 2009 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Training people to do your job who work for 1/5th as much? Smart. Enjoy the minibar. Ahahahahahhaa.


And I suppose the solution is to unionize? You're like a badly scratched record there Smash...

I know it galls you that some people actually make good money without tricking the system, ******** over their employers or the taxpayers, or using some other leverage to get paid more than they're worth. But that's what therapy is for... ;)
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#18 Oct 19 2009 at 2:33 AM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Training people to do your job who work for 1/5th as much? Smart. Enjoy the minibar. Ahahahahahhaa.


And I suppose the solution is to unionize? You're like a badly scratched record there Smash...

I know it galls you that some people actually make good money without tricking the system, ******** over their employers or the taxpayers, or using some other leverage to get paid more than they're worth. But that's what therapy is for... ;)


Converting to socialism, comrade?
#19 Oct 19 2009 at 5:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Oh. I also found a KFC and a 7/11, so I'm good.


Oh, the experience of it all.
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#20 Oct 19 2009 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
Oh. I also found a KFC and a 7/11, so I'm good.


Oh, the experience of it all.


/bonk!

I was contrasting that to the McD's. The place I'm working at has a local market with a huge food court thingie upstairs ($3 for a lunch!). I'm quite sure I'm far more immersed in the local experience than anyone going to the tourist restaurants and thinking they're getting the "experience" of the area.
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#21 Oct 20 2009 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
gbaji wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Training people to do your job who work for 1/5th as much? Smart. Enjoy the minibar. Ahahahahahhaa.


And I suppose the solution is to unionize? You're like a badly scratched record there Smash...

I know it galls you that some people actually make good money without tricking the system, ******** over their employers or the taxpayers, or using some other leverage to get paid more than they're worth. But that's what therapy is for... ;)
No, the solution is to make it more worthwhile to keep jobs in the US than to ship 'em overseas. (Granted, this technically screws over the taxpayers because you're pushing more of the burden of paying for the government onto individuals instead of companies.)
#22 Oct 20 2009 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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And I suppose the solution is to unionize? You're like a badly scratched record there Smash...

I know it galls you that some people actually make good money without tricking the system, ******** over their employers or the taxpayers, or using some other leverage to get paid more than they're worth. But that's what therapy is for... ;)


No one interested in Gbaji violating the ideology he espouses? I guess it happens too often.
#23 Oct 20 2009 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
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No, the solution is to make it more worthwhile to keep jobs in the US than to ship 'em overseas. (Granted, this technically screws over the taxpayers because you're pushing more of the burden of paying for the government onto individuals instead of companies.)


Sure. But how do you do this? If you give employers the freedom to pay their employees the market value of their labor, you may lose some labor as a result of offshore competition, but the labor costs in relation to other parts of the economy are "natural". It's not perfect, but you know that if a job exists, it's because it's cost effective for it to exist.

I made my comment about unionization because the process of job protection such as that practiced by unions ultimately hurts labor in the long run. If the problem is that businesses might shift their workforce offshore due to differences in labor cost, then it should be obvious that the last thing you want to do is increase the cost of labor locally. Yet, that's exactly what unions do. And unfortunately, in order to make that work, you have to keep lumping more and more government rules and tariffs into the works, which protects the unnatural labor rates for awhile, but ultimately hurts us more than helps.

Like so many aspects of economics and politics, there is no "perfect" solution. But some solutions are better than others. In this case, I would much much rather work in a field in which my employer is free to fire me if he thinks my work isn't worth what he's paying me. Because then I know that since I have a job, what I'm doing is worth the cost. And that's not likely to magically change over night. The more protections we try to create, the more we ***** with that dynamic. Workers jobs become less safe because there's no mechanic in place to ensure that they don't become priced out of a job.
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#24 Oct 20 2009 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, a ******* gbaji vacation thread becoming an economic dispute.

Also instigated by an elusive smasharoo post.

Stop it people. It's a trap.
#25 Oct 20 2009 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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No, the solution is to make it more worthwhile to keep jobs in the US than to ship 'em overseas. (Granted, this technically screws over the taxpayers because you're pushing more of the burden of paying for the government onto individuals instead of companies.)


Sure. But how do you do this? If you give employers the freedom to pay their employees the market value of their labor, you may lose some labor as a result of offshore competition, but the labor costs in relation to other parts of the economy are "natural". It's not perfect, but you know that if a job exists, it's because it's cost effective for it to exist.
Corollary: most jobs aren't cost effective to exist in the US. (The ones that are, are in areas where what's being produced cannot readily be transported internationally because the items are perishable and/or cost more than the labor differential to transport.)

Since obviously 93% (give or take a bit) unemployment is highly undesirable, why not basically say "here, we'll let you write off an amount of income equal to X, where X is greater than the total wage differential you're keeping in the US"? This is where the "it screws taxpayers" part in my response came in, BTW, which you kind of ignored completely.

Rather than decrease the cost of labor, increase the effective revenue produced...
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