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#27 Sep 29 2009 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can you really not see how the environment surrounding a football game is completely different than the environment surrounding a gang fight?


I'm just saying shots fired in the air disperses people. It's assinine to say that because there's a gang fight going on they won't run for cover upon hearing the shots.



It certainly does at a track meet. Smiley: schooled
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#28 Sep 29 2009 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does anyone know if something like this has happened in the last 10yrs in a city that wasn't run by Democrats?

Yes, it has.

Wow, that was easy!
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Opening fire in the middle of a "gang fight" is a sure fire way to run up the dead body count.


It's a sure fire way to disperse the crowd if anything. Have you ever been at a football game where shots have been fired?


Can you really not see how the environment surrounding a football game is completely different than the environment surrounding a gang fight?
Of course not. In his Republican utopia there are no gangs!

Never mind the fact that urban centers tend to be more blue than the outlying areas...



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#30 Sep 29 2009 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm just saying shots fired in the air disperses people. It's assinine to say that because there's a gang fight going on they won't run for cover upon hearing the shots.

You're completely missing the point. What do gang members sometimes carry? Firearms! Do you not see the extreme negligence in firing a gun near a heated gang fight?
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#31 Sep 29 2009 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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Sooooo....where in the US doesn't have at least one single example of violent crime, as portrayed in this one single example?

This thread is only here to justify varrus's future WMD strike on Chicago.
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Please don't drag someone's tragedy through the muck to try to make some neurotic connection to your petty, simple-minded view of politics.
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London, of course, has no crime.

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Smiley: laugh
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#34 Sep 29 2009 at 6:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Have you ever been at a football game where shots have been fired?

No, but then I don't live in Tennessee.
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#35 Sep 29 2009 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Have you ever been at a football game where shots have been fired?

No, but then I don't live in Tennessee.


We don't fire guns at games here. Might hit a beer.
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That's right, the Olympics should not come to Chicago as someone died in a stupid fight.

I know varus's thread doesn't really require an answer, but meh! I don't really feel like working right now.
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London, of course, has no crime.

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That's what Australia is for.
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Jophed,

I didn't go to high school in TN. Regardless you people are avoiding the issue; safety for law abiding citizens in urban streets. I didn't see any of the attackers packing, did you?

Fortunately I live in Tn where we pass bills that prevent this sort of thing from happening;

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The state House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved bills tonight allowing Tennessee residents with handgun-carry permits to carry guns into any Tennessee State Park and to lift the ban on guns in local parks.


5 trained and armed law abiding citizens can keep criminals who get out of control in public in check. Criminals are going to carry weapons. The worst thing you can do is make it illegal for legal citizens to carry them.





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#39 Sep 30 2009 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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publiusvarus wrote:
Jophed,

I didn't go to high school in TN. Regardless you people are avoiding the issue; safety for law abiding citizens in urban streets. I didn't see any of the attackers packing, did you?

Fortunately I live in Tn where we pass bills that prevent this sort of thing from happening;

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The state House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved bills tonight allowing Tennessee residents with handgun-carry permits to carry guns into any Tennessee State Park and to lift the ban on guns in local parks.


5 trained and armed law abiding citizens can keep criminals who get out of control in public in check. Criminals are going to carry weapons. The worst thing you can do is make it illegal for legal citizens to carry them.





Edited, Sep 30th 2009 10:40am by publiusvarus
The problem, as you know, in giving a whole buncha peeps guns is that accidental gun deaths will increase dramatically - and within our most vulnerable population (kids). We won't be any safer from Mr. Badguy - he/she will just get a bigger gun.

If there had been teens packing in this school yard war, do you think the death toll would have been less than, greater than or equal to one?
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publiusvarus wrote:
Jophed,

I didn't go to high school in TN. Regardless you people are avoiding the issue; safety for law abiding citizens in urban streets. I didn't see any of the attackers packing, did you?

Fortunately I live in Tn where we pass bills that prevent this sort of thing from happening;

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The state House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved bills tonight allowing Tennessee residents with handgun-carry permits to carry guns into any Tennessee State Park and to lift the ban on guns in local parks.


5 trained and armed law abiding citizens can keep criminals who get out of control in public in check. Criminals are going to carry weapons. The worst thing you can do is make it illegal for legal citizens to carry them.





Edited, Sep 30th 2009 10:40am by publiusvarus


And who is the "law abiding citizen?", is it Joe Schmoe from down the road, who just got home from being fired, to discover his wife in bed with their next door neighbour?

Do your fatal shooting statistics not teach you anything? No they don't, because you'd have to admit guns are the problem, something red-neck, blinkered ******** like you will never do.

Yeehaw!
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#41 Sep 30 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Regardless you people are avoiding the issue

I thought the issue was whether or not Chicago was secure enough to host the Olympics.
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The areas of Chicago I have visited were peaceful, clean, with relatively (for Chicago) friendly people, low traffic congestion, and well kept buildings and streets.

(They were also owned by the mafia, if local rumor is to be believed, and were far out from the city center.)
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#43 Sep 30 2009 at 7:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, the downtown area is generally peaceful and clean. Da Mare doesn't cotton to ruffians potentially ruining his touristy areas by shankin' people. It's the more residental neighborhoods where you get into issues.
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What's funny is you people assuming these thugs are "poor". So are we to assume all people who engage in criminal acitivity are so disadvantaged?


Obviously yes, We would also assume they were black... And obviously all black people are poor. Smiley: oyveySmiley: disappointed
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#45REDACTED, Posted: Sep 30 2009 at 10:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Toot,
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We would also assume they were black


Why would you need to assume? There is a video.



Some of us don't have access to video streaming at work... I'll check it out when I get home.
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#48 Sep 30 2009 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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We would also assume they were black


Why would you need to assume? There is a video.



She's blind you insensitive clod!
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Gang members are always black. Except the brown ones.
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#50REDACTED, Posted: Sep 30 2009 at 12:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) At least we know the gang members weren't racist; the person who recorded the event appeared to be white.
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At least we know the gang members weren't racist; the person who recorded the event appeared to be white.

See? Affirmative Action is working. They didn't feel the need to kill Whitey.
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