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#1 Sep 28 2009 at 8:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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So it seems that Obama is headed to Copenhagen to pitch for the 2016 games after all. Personally, I was happier to just see Michelle going since, in so far as the First Lady has any job, largely meaningless public relations would be it. The 2016 games are less important than a bajillion other things going on at the moment.

But, anyway, does anyone think Chicago will win the bid? Does anyone care? Opinion within the city is a lot of skepticism that the games will help the city and a lot of certainty that they'll fuck up traffic and cause headaches. I live out in the burbs so I don't expect my life to be heavily impacted but Flea hopes Chicago loses it so her daily commute won't become a cluster.
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#2 Sep 28 2009 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
I'm quite happy about the games being in London in 2012. Yes, it will ***** up the traffic, the underground, the buses, the non-existent trams, and it will certainly make it harder to find a parking space, but at least those things will be screwed-up for a good reason. As opposed to now, where they just suck for the sake of it.

As for 2016, I'm hoping it'll be in Kabul. Mostly to **** off the Talibans.
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#3 Sep 28 2009 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't been following this. What other cities are going to be bidding?
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#4 Sep 28 2009 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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It was lots of fun in Atlanta, and the city got a really nice park, and new stadium, out of the deal. It was also nice to get to see a few of the events live. I have no idea what it might have done to a commute, because I was 9.
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I haven't been following this. What other cities are going to be bidding?

Madrid, Rio de Janerio & Tokyo. Obviously a bunch of others submitted bids but those are the finalists with the winner decided on Oct 2nd.
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#6 Sep 28 2009 at 8:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
So it seems that Obama is headed to Copenhagen to pitch for the 2016 games after all. Personally, I was happier to just see Michelle going since, in so far as the First Lady has any job, largely meaningless public relations would be it. The 2016 games are less important than a bajillion other things going on at the moment.

But, anyway, does anyone think Chicago will win the bid? Does anyone care? Opinion within the city is a lot of skepticism that the games will help the city and a lot of certainty that they'll fuck up traffic and cause headaches. I live out in the burbs so I don't expect my life to be heavily impacted but Flea hopes Chicago loses it so her daily commute won't become a cluster.


She should start saving up vacation time so she can take that month off. She'll want to be home while we're visiting and staying with you anyway!

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#7 Sep 28 2009 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
I haven't been following this. What other cities are going to be bidding?

Madrid, Rio de Janerio & Tokyo. Obviously a bunch of others submitted bids but those are the finalists with the winner decided on Oct 2nd.


Given that list, I think I'd like to see Tokyo win the bid.

That and I'm more likely to be home when the games are being played.
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Chicago would be fun. I have relatives moderately close by. I might actually attempt to nab some tickets if I'm still around and kicking in 7 more years.
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#9 Sep 28 2009 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Frankly, I'm surprised Chicago made it this far and definitely consider it the dark horse in the race.
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#10 Sep 28 2009 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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Traffic in Chicago is always a nightmare, so hosting the 2016 games would just make it a creepier commute.

If Chicago were to win it's bid for the Summer Olympics, can I hope that one of the Japanese team member's gets the flu, like my cousin Tommy O'Hara, did in 1964. Though one could say he was cursed by SI, when they put him on the cover of their Olympics preview edition.
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#11 Sep 28 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd like to see it in Chicago for no other reason than I'm from there and it would give me an excuse to go back home for a few weeks.

Where exactly are they looking to build everything?
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Lower Wacker Drive, down with the Morlocks.

In reality, the Olympic Stadium would be in Washington Park with the other sports centers (Wrigley, Comisky US Celluar Field, Soldier Field) playing parts and even in outlying areas. When Flea and I saw the Lipizzan horses out in Wadsworth, IL (way up north) they were planning for hosting the equestrian events should Chicago get the games.
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#13 Sep 28 2009 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
I don't really care either way but I do prefer it NOT to be in Chicago as I am a suburb resident as well. The trains will be clogged more than normal, the traffic I usually get while driving downtown will be horrid and I don't want to invite any crazy attacks on the city that's too close to home.
#14REDACTED, Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So in the midst of the crisis in Afghanistan Obama flies to where to do what? Yeah he's getting things done.
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So in the midst of the crisis in Afghanistan Obama flies to where to do what? Yeah he's getting things done.

We're in a crisis now? Let me know what event prompted that evaluation? It's a serious situation that by all accounts Obama appears to be taking seriously.

Winnipeg had the pan-am games, and it was a blast, although it did make traffic slower. Just work from home :D
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#16 Sep 28 2009 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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So in the midst of the crisis in Afghanistan Obama flies to where to do what? Yeah he's getting things done.

I listened to Rush today, too!
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#17 Sep 28 2009 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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We should start taking bets for Varus' Obama-crisis of the week.
#18 Sep 28 2009 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
I haven't been following this. What other cities are going to be bidding?

Madrid, Rio de Janerio & Tokyo. Obviously a bunch of others submitted bids but those are the finalists with the winner decided on Oct 2nd.


During a recent "Gundam themed wedding" thread I posted in the OOT(well, okay weeks ago, not that recent), there was a painting of the olympic symbol on a giant robot rooting for Tokyo. It's obvious that will be the winner.

The others shouldn't even bother. There's no beating giant robots. Not without even bigger robots.

Edited, Sep 28th 2009 12:37pm by Poldaran
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Jophiel wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
I haven't been following this. What other cities are going to be bidding?

Madrid, Rio de Janerio & Tokyo. Obviously a bunch of others submitted bids but those are the finalists with the winner decided on Oct 2nd.


During a recent "Gundam themed wedding" thread I posted in the OOT(well, okay weeks ago, not that recent), there was a painting of the olympic symbol on a giant robot rooting for Tokyo. It's obvious that will be the winner.

The others shouldn't even bother. There's no beating giant robots. Not without even bigger robots.


You wouldn't want to anger the giant Olympic robot. He may have to kill all humans.
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#20REDACTED, Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 11:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) CBD,
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CBD,

I guess it's only a crisis if the liberal media and democrats think so. They only use the word "crisis" when they're trying to f*ck up health care or trying to pass an unneccesary "stimulus" plan. But in the event that the military needs more support or they face failure that's not a crisis. Sound about right?

I'll ask again, what event made you consider it to be in a crisis state? It's a serious situation, but Obama is taking it pretty seriously, so I'd like to know what has changed?

Edited, Sep 28th 2009 2:24pm by Xsarus
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#22 Sep 28 2009 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I'll ask again, what event made you consider it to be in a crisis state?

Walrusman Bolton said so.
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#23 Sep 28 2009 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
Xarus,

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KABUL, Sept 22 — The Afghan war will be lost unless more troops are sent to pursue a radically revised strategy, the top US and Nato commander said in a confidential assessment that offers stark choices for President Barack Obama.

In the assessment, sent to Washington last month and leaked yesterday, Army General Stanley McChrystal said failure to reverse “insurgent momentum” in the near term risked an outcome where “defeating the insurgency is no longer possible.”



Any more questions? Now I have one for you; Do you think this is a serious situation?






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Lost is very descriptive. It's important to see what negative impacts could we prevent by sending more troop and make a calculated decision based on that.
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KABUL, Sept 22 — The Afghan war will be lost unless more troops are sent to pursue a radically revised strategy, the top US and Nato commander said in a confidential assessment that offers stark choices for President Barack Obama.

Any more questions? Now I have one for you; Do you think this is a serious situation?

While a serious situation, you forgot to mention the part where he was speaking in terms of a year's time frame, not days.

I'll happily say that Obama probably has better things he could be doing and I think sending his wife would have been dandy. Acting as though taking a day or so for this trip will destroy Afghanistan is just asinine.
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#26 Sep 28 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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Xarus,

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KABUL, Sept 22 — The Afghan war will be lost unless more troops are sent to pursue a radically revised strategy, the top US and Nato commander said in a confidential assessment that offers stark choices for President Barack Obama.

In the assessment, sent to Washington last month and leaked yesterday, Army General Stanley McChrystal said failure to reverse “insurgent momentum” in the near term risked an outcome where “defeating the insurgency is no longer possible.”



Any more questions? Now I have one for you; Do you think this is a serious situation?
Perhaps you should read my posts, as I've answered that question.

The need for more troops is an ongoing issue, and is hardly news or a crisis. Obama already increased troop presence once, and is also pressuring NATO members to send more troops. There are more ways to address the issue then simply throwing more US troops at it instantly. In addition this is a very recent report and decisions on these issues will take a bit of time. I see the US government taking an active and serious role in regards to Afghanistan, and so no, I don't see this as a crisis. As I've said in pretty much every post, this is a serious situation that requires serious attention and it is getting that.

Edited, Sep 28th 2009 3:00pm by Xsarus
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